LSG - Netherworld (that melody is timeless still sounds fresh)
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Jul-14-2007 01:46
Project-K
JD ëtictsile
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Laval, Quebec
quote:
Originally posted by Breeze
LSG - Netherworld (that melody is timeless still sounds fresh)
That's a great track, but iskur hit the nail. Real trance doesn't need melodies.
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Jul-14-2007 01:50
thoughtlessjex
Yakkity Yak
Registered: May 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, North Carolina
quote:
Originally posted by Cetra
There's no such thing as pure trance.
Not one song or one style can define the whole genre, since trance borrows and complements other genres. You can't have trance that hasn't ever before received contribution from other areas of electronic dance music.
Odyssee of Noises - Firedance (Sunrise Mix)
QED, you are incorrect.
Other trance tracks I've come across that are, in my opinion, representations of pure trance:
Art of Trance - Madagascar (Original Mix)
Atmos - Klein Aber Doctor
BT - Giving Up the Ghost
BT - Namistai
Cosmic Baby - Spacetrack
Cybernetika - No Communication
Der Dritte Raum - Lava
Der Dritte Raum - Polarstern
Hardfloor - Acperience 1
LSG - Fragile
Man With No Name - Teleport
Marmion - Schöneberg
PPK - Resurrection
Underworld - Dark and Long (Dark Train Mix)
Union Jack - Cockroach
Union Jack - Two Full Moons and a Trout
You say it has a different structure..that is not true from what I've found. Sure the build ups and breakdowns aren't as grandiose, but it's misleading to think that there weren't build ups and breakdowns in the early trance stuff. Sure not every single track had one, but many of the tracks just build, build and continued to build, but others broke down, shifted..adding new layers or sounds or melodies. Listen to "The Space Track" by Cosmic Baby, and some of his other stuff. "Age Of Love" also has a mild breakdown (40 seconds). But the key thing is that they breakdowns didn't take over the whole track...they weren't the focus as they have been with "modern" trance or epic trance.
So to say that the structure of each was totally different is not true. The sound itself was slightly different, but you can still hear some influences with the use of repeated melodic fragments and the shifting melody and the build ups. "The Space Track" sounds similar to (though not identical) to Paul van Dyk, some Armin van Buuren and Ferry Corsten, and even some releases on Anjunabeats...in it's use of melody, a breakdown and the beat and bassline itself is similar (though a little slower than the more modern stuff).
To me..these two tracks define early "pure" trance but aren't devoid of influences on a good number (though not all) "modern" trance..you still get the build up, you still get the breakdown (though they were only like 40 seconds, now they are more like a minute and a half to three), you still get the symphonic or angelic voices and the loops, melodic fragments and similar bassline and beat. Like I said is had slightly slower and the melody isn't quite as overt, though it is a little more apparent on "The Space Track", which to me is an example of early melodic progressive trance. I guess the biggest difference was also they were just more "hypnotic" sounding, not as grandiose and less commercial/pop-orientated. They weren't what you hear on ASOT, though that's not to say that there isn't stuff on there or even around nowadays that doesn't capture the same feeling, it's just harder to come by.
Joof in his june GTG episode spinned Way out west - Domination (Mururoa rmx) and said that this was one of the best tracks of the period when trance was still trance (or something like that).
