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Originally posted by Ryan0751 I think he meant "a or b" to indicate major/minor, not the actual letter of the key. I think. It didn't make much sense regardless

yeah that's what i meant... not alot of tracks are in "b" but i do have some.. and when mixing from "a" to "b" and the numbers werent matched, this is where i find the most trouble in having the melodies go together!

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Originally posted by Zild Yeah screw beatmatching! If I want to play a happy hardcore track after a deep house track I damn well will! I'm not letting the tempo dictate what I play because I make the decisions not the BPM!

Sadly, I've been to a couple clubs here in ATL where people actually do that. Needless to say, I didn't stay there very long.

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Originally posted by basilisk Out of 10,000+ tracks in my database, fewer than 100 are in a major key... and some of those are slightly suspect Yeah! And screw beatmatching too!

jajajaja I was about to say the same thing

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Originally posted by basilisk Out of 10,000+ tracks in my database, fewer than 100 are in a major key... and some of those are slightly suspect Yeah! And screw beatmatching too!

Yeah just play a premixed CD and Jesus pose the whole night!

-once scientists thought the world was flat, then found it to be round.

-artists in pre-modern times only believed in painting in realism, then cubism and abstract revolutionized the meaning of art.

-and today many DJs feel the absolute need to mix in key.

the point is to keep in mind there are no absolutes. mix creatively and have fun.

music theory is great to learn, don't get me wrong. but, as an artist you should never let it limit you.

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Nobody ever said anything about an absolute need to mix in key. People have said that it is a good tool to use or discard as you see fit, but you are the one making the assumption that it is absolute.

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Originally posted by kwnds I had saw this: How can you know the key of song? And the mixs stay better if i use keys "aproximated?" Sorry my english, bad student :S

if that cd is showing keys, why arent the transitions keymatched?
to me looks like only the transition between track 4 and 5 would sound harmonic.

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I don't think anybody said that was a mix cd... could just be someones DJ cd.

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Originally posted by kadomony if that cd is showing keys, why arent the transitions keymatched? to me looks like only the transition between track 4 and 5 would sound harmonic.

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Originally posted by hooj1 -and today many DJs feel the absolute need to mix in key.

that being because there is such a huge trend of dj's nowadays looking for ways to improve how they sound behind the decks.. lots of them are starting to brush up on their technical skills (harmonic mixing is one of said skills) and programming by finding ways to improve how they sound, i don't see a problem with that nor do many people here, why do you?

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Originally posted by starboy that being because there is such a huge trend of dj's nowadays looking for ways to improve how they sound behind the decks.. lots of them are starting to brush up on their technical skills (harmonic mixing is one of said skills) and programming by finding ways to improve how they sound, i don't see a problem with that nor do many people here, why do you?

i think its great that DJs want to improve thier technical skills. i'm just cautioning new guys that focusing on having perfectly keyed tunes all the time can take away from thier creativity.

i speak from experience when i used attend music school. they pretty much force feed us this western music theory stuff and i felt it limited creativity. it limits chord progressions and some very good music.

i myself do play in key, but i do not really focus on it ( i guess that comes from playing intruments for so long). in fact i would say to all DJs that are serious about what they do should learn to play an instrment. it really helps train your ears.

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Originally posted by hooj1 i think its great that DJs want to improve thier technical skills. i'm just cautioning new guys that focusing on having perfectly keyed tunes all the time can take away from thier creativity.

Do you meen perfecly in key mixes? if thats what your saying than yeah a whole set perfectly in key would be ridiculous.. but no one here is encouraging that..

if you meen your cautioning guys who key all their music, i dissagree. by doing this it promotes creativity, by knowing what combo's will work. it also gives you the ability to do semi tone jumps and +2 jumps that can destroy the dance floor if done right..

also, by knowing the keys of your music you can mix lots of genres together seamlesly without sounding nasty, or worrying what will work with what

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very good point starboy. knowing what key changes affect the crowd is huge. and i agree totally because i like to do this myself.

but what i'm saying is don't let keys limit you. meaning don't
be afraid to toss in a track that according to music theory shouldn't be played next. it may sound great but you would never know if you stictly follow that circle of fifths chart.

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