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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Also the look on the retards face who previously thought he was going to bang it out and steal the thunder when he gets his lunch eaten at 120 BPM by moi is priceless.


I know this feeling all too well.


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MR STROKE
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: sacramento, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Don't play with dumb DJs.


I wish there was a choice sometimes...unfortunately there always are people that want instant gratification and will be banging out peak hour anthems at 10:30pm .....

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nefardec
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i've watched professionals come out of this many times in respectable clubs from openers who get too excited opening for someone big

usually they ride the wave of excitement that the opener has created plus the crowd's interest in their appearance, and play some really banging tracks and then they always bring it down create a proper beginning, building it back from the ground up

works really well and usually causes a wave of people to buy drinks

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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

working in a club, that's another thing you need to keep tabs on, dumping the dancefloor for the bar every now and then, otherwise you have unhappy club owners

as for the opening dj

a good opening dj is worth their weight in gold

you want to get people grooving, not so much on the dancefloor yet, but when you see people bobbing their heads and the odd person busting out by their table you know you're on the right track, then near the end of your set, start coaxing people on the floor with some more intense tracks and set it up nice

this is the point where people are getting their drink on, don't mess with that


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

The best opening DJs make me love records I would normally find boring.


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nefardec
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this is the point where people are getting their drink on, don't mess with that


definitely. i always look at the first hour or two when i play the whole night as provoking people to buy drinks and feel sexy. the last thing you want to do is tire people out to early. I look at it as a sort of tantric thing where you keep a constant fine, tense balance of wanting to dance and wanting to chill out and enjoy the sound. what happens is if you keep the early ones interested and constantly feeling like it's going to pick up at the next track - they stay and then when the others arrive they think 'wow this is a great party' and then buy drinks. meanwhile the first group is already feeling it and starts the dance cycle.

drinking + feeling sexy = flirting, talking, trying to look cool, thinking oneself is cool, thinking someone else is cool, dancing, buying drinks, more dancing...etc

deejaying is a lot of psychology and one thing that's important to realize is most people in the crowd are trying to impress someone else and get laid, get rubbed up on, or get flattered.

it's nice to think that music is the driving force in a club (and sometimes it is), but mostly you're playing a game of psychology and social patterns.


if you can't tell - i love opening sets. it's really fun to play them and feels great when you do it right. also my favorite tracks are always the deep, sexy, dubby, chill tracks

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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

To go along with that, generally, the best opening sets I've heard always keep you wanting a little bit more, with each track.


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Abhay
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Registered: May 2004
Location: mould coast

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Originally posted by RJT
Come on now Clovis, you as well as anyone should know that you don't always get to choose who's on the bill with you - there are quite literally millions of "dumb dj's" who get booked week in and week out at some of the nicest clubs in the world


pisses me off

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David Jeffreys
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Registered: Nov 2006
Location: San Jose

i have seen this happen more and more these days. opening dj's that bang it is crap. but here is something you can do.

select a song that has a break down that could sound like an intro.
something that builds slow but ends up banging. let the asshole's track play out bring your track in during the last few measures. but still make sure your timing is on so when their last kick hits its still lined up right. playing an intro to your set lets the crowd
know its all about you now. usually the crowd wont care if you change the bpm now that they know that the dj they came to see is now playing. but only do this when your the headliner!
if you do it right it will be gold!

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clubamerica
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Registered: May 2006
Location: san jose.california

First and foremost they would not bring the BPM beyond 132 because i told them so.I am the superstar DJ and anything they would play in there opening set would have to be aproved by ME.


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SBK
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Gdansk, Poland

quote:
Originally posted by clubamerica
First and foremost they would not bring the BPM beyond 132 because i told them so.I am the superstar DJ and anything they would play in there opening set would have to be aproved by ME.


So if youre superstar dj you should know that its not only BPM that makes track bangin'

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Stu Cox
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Southampton, UK
Re: What do you do if the person playing before you is banging it out?

You bang him out. Blat.


See what the crowd are like... by the time they've got used to him playing hard as nails at 10 o'clock they might be up for it to continue, although that normally results in everyone leaving pretty early so the venue might not be too happy when the bar takings plummet around 1am.

Definitely don't feel it's your job to now perform the set he should have performed - say you take over at 11 or 12, you should at least play an 11 or 12 o'clock set (I've seen people follow a silly warm up set with a load of 9pm tunes at midnight and it just kills the atmosphere).

Also I'd try and avoid doing a deck stop - while that might be the easiest way to bring things back down, it makes it look like you're openly saying "what the fuck is this kid doing?" and again, while that may feel like it needs saying and the crowd are likely to agree, it doesn't give the impression that you're all working together as a team so can lose a bit of professionalism (on top of what he's just lost by being a twat)


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