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crackers...all of you...trancecrackers. calling people who use hardware rich...god what has the world come to.

do you think all the guys in detroit were rich too?

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why are you bearing so much hatred toward people who just make some music (or even just own something that they could make music with while reading about how to make music)? or people who go to a club and dance to what is in at the moment...

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why are you bearing so much hatred toward people who just make some music (or even just own something that they could make music with while reading about how to make music)? or people who go to a club and dance to what is in at the moment...

oh thats not what this is about.

this is about someone wanting to make electro.

electro isnt just about dancing in the club for the moment, it isnt pillhead music. But damn can you dance to it. Electro music is about style and technique, and dancing to electro can be too.

I sure can't dance like the proper people who dance to electro, so I just jack.

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Try Korg Legacy


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beats and bleeps... You always seemed like one of the good ones, but I've now added you to the retard bag with rubez. You're just being an elitist wanker.

Anyway... To the OP: Any of those synths are ok. Z3ta, Korg Legacy and V-Station stick out of the pack for me though, personally. Typical electro basslines use a sine, saw and a square for pwm (if you want it) with loads of distortion and other effects. Just about any synth can do that. Around that you have your standard pad/fx/lead sounds which those synths are capable of too!

Not many synths come with good electro presets, so I suggest you invest a bit of time learning to program them yourself. Personally, I think V-Station is a great place to start (has decent inbuilt effects). It is very cheap too.

A technique I've heard many electro artists using, is using tone generators to develop a waveform which they then loop in their sampler. You're effectively replacing an OSC by a looped sample... if that makes any sense! It can give you a very clean sounds. Give this a try if you want.

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electro relies and is inspired by the hardware more than any other genre, as such unless you have extensive experience with working with the hardware, it is unlikely that you will create good electro with vsts.

for the price of those vsts you could be jamming a 606 and a 202 or 101 or something.

then for the price of any additional vsts you are asking about you could get a juno60 or whatever the fuck you want...


Seems to me you don't know shit about making music at all.
Maybe you're jealous of people who didn't spend shitloads of money on expensive hardware.
The lesson here should be,you can make whatever type of electronic music with pretty much any synth,hardware or software.
It all boils down to knowledge of the genre you wish to make,knowledge of sounddesign,effects,mixing and sequencing.

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Is it just me...wasn't electro from early the 80's?? and now they are calling it electro but it is not even close to the sounds it was?? Maybe I'm wrong.

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Seems to me you don't know shit about making music at all.
Maybe you're jealous of people who didn't spend shitloads of money on expensive hardware.
The lesson here should be,you can make whatever type of electronic music with pretty much any synth,hardware or software.
It all boils down to knowledge of the genre you wish to make,knowledge of sounddesign,effects,mixing and sequencing.

I havent spent thousands of dollars on equipment.

you guys just dont have a clue what electro is. and how it works. you guys have never hooked the machines together, and felt them. Have you guys ever even triggered arps with audio imputs? Have you guys ever used CV gate?

you acheive sounds nuances and interaction between the machines that you really would never duplicate in software...

oh well, you guys make little package dance tracks to be pressed and they sound clean and poppy. go at it.

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Is it just me...wasn't electro from early the 80's?? and now they are calling it electro but it is not even close to the sounds it was?? Maybe I'm wrong.


It's close in the sense that it uses basic drum patterns and the obligatory "electro snare".

If you listen to some of the earlier "electro" house stuff, around 2004, the similarities are heaps obvious. Alot of them used the Blue Monday "upper octave, lower octave" oompa bassline, the only thing that changed was the synth patches, to keep it sounding modern.

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jesus christ havent any of you ******s heard planet rock on the radio? theres no excuse for not knowing electro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h6pcqC6wrI

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOE7...related&search=

that is fucking hardware in action

its hilarious cuz you guys are the same idiots who try oh so hard to get that 303 acid line, without realizing that the greatest acid lines can from from boxes besides the 303...but still boxes.

oh well if phosycon gets your dick hard

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beats and bleeps... You always seemed like one of the good ones, but I've now added you to the retard bag with rubez. You're just being an elitist wanker.

im not elitist i just know what electro is

you idiots have raped the word trance, and now you want to do it to electro, but why? you guys never cared about electro in the first place.

just fuck off and leave it be.

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