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Ryan0751
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA

Hmm, I'm not sure how the fixed CC messages are really a bad thing though, since they are all unique of course. I suppose "bank" control would have been nice, but that's the only thing I can think of off hand...

If you've already gone that far into ableton, then sure it looks like you know what you want

Are you going to still mix on the DJM-800, or try to mix using the Lemur? The Lemur looks so powerful for everything else... I just can't imagine mixing with a touch screen

Have you setup your Novation with automap (or abletons instant mapping)? That's another pretty powerful tool.

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
I'm with Ryan on this one...and hardly futureproof I'd say. It doesn't even have OSC support which, like I mentioned is a big plus for me with the Lemur and lacks variety in controller types (seems to be mostly faders and pots). Also, I'm certainly not going to go for something that hasn't even had a proper review yet.

As far as your comments ryan, I appreciate you reposting that review and your insight. I'm quite surprised the CC's are dedicated and you can't change them thats a big minus for me .

I have delved quite a bit into Ableton and for a while was using it in my CDJ sets as well but I think I'm looking to go a bit further combining the Live API and the Lemur + Max/MSP to completely warp the idea of live EDM. It looks to me like the Lemur is what I'm looking for. I already have a couple of external audio interfaces and various controllers that I normally use for production (maudio keyboard,s the novation remote SL zero, etc etc). I'm currently using the DJM800 but it's a little too basic for what I'm trying to achieve here. I was satisfied while doing typical DJ sets with it don't get me wrong, but I'd like to take it a step further.

Thanks for the input guys...I think I'll be going with the Lemur!

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SPAWNmaster
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, USA

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Originally posted by Ryan0751
Hmm, I'm not sure how the fixed CC messages are really a bad thing though, since they are all unique of course. I suppose "bank" control would have been nice, but that's the only thing I can think of off hand...

If you've already gone that far into ableton, then sure it looks like you know what you want

Are you going to still mix on the DJM-800, or try to mix using the Lemur? The Lemur looks so powerful for everything else... I just can't imagine mixing with a touch screen

Have you setup your Novation with automap (or abletons instant mapping)? That's another pretty powerful tool.


i have played with automap a little bit but am not so impressed because im pretty anal about my configuration and custom templates...which sort of ties into why dedicated CC configuration is a problem since I like to have a very organized/anal setup. I only ever really use about 5 MIDI channels but it's still important for me to explicitly design my templates.

I've been following up on the Lemur for about a year now and am convinced that it's powerful enough for everything I will be doing, despite it's lack of tactile feedback (which apparently is not even a problem considering how strong the multi-touch and sensitivity is).

Not sure how I'll be using the DJM800 once I integrate the Lemur especially since it won't be a traditional DJ set but rather more of a fusion of traditional + live production sort of deal (a la Stephan Bodzin). By the way, just touching on what you mentioned before about trying this out on the DJM800 itself, I have experimented a little with setting up a live-performance situation between my DJM800 and ableton but of-course there are obvious hardware limitations which would be easily overcomed by the Lemur...I feel like as I'm typing I'm convincing myself even more for the jazzmutant! lol.

Thanks for your input.

-andrew


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miamitranceman
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Well, you better post vids when/if you get that thing. It looks sick!


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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles

Lemur hands down. I own both the 3D and the Lemur. I bought one when Cycling 74 stil had the 60 day trial promotion on the Lemur, which was absolutely hastle free and let you try it out without worrying if you spent your money well or not.

I love the fact that I can simply go ahead into Jazzeditor, create my own interface, go back into Ableton, load up a plugin and route it to that interface. Especially how I can take a eq plugin like waves, route that to Lemur and use it as the main eq for mixing tracks. Its fantastic and incredibly fun.

It is not as big as the 3d too so it saves you room when you're playing out. I suggest you get a good external audio interface with lots of outs aswell. Atleast 4 to emulate the traditional mixer.

p.s : Welcome to the Mutant forums.

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SPAWNmaster
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, USA

thanks! everything I've ever heard about the Lemur has been unanimous in opinion so I guess it's the way for me.


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