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Big Boss
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada

"Go and see Chus & Ceballos. They're playing tribal drums, you know?"

I'm a big fan of Lawler's and Chus and Ceballos, but they are playing much more than just drums...

A Chus and Ceballos set incorporates much more than drums...there's a techno, minimal, electro and even some deep tracks when Chus is feeling it!

What a stupid comment.

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tobywan
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Re: Re: Steve Lawler: Tribal Survivor - Interview

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
lots of pple should double read this quote


x2, but unfortunately not many of them will process and understand it.

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jon jon
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quote:
Originally posted by Big Boss
What a stupid comment.


He didn't say that C&C ONLY PLAY THAT, he said they DO play it. It wasn't a slam on C&C, it was a slam on people who go see him (Lawler) hoping he'll play something else.

edit: drawing blood from stone type of deal...

ie: If you want Chicago house, go see Sneak, he's doing it. Tu sais?


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PurpleHaze
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great great read!

anyone who has listened to lawler between 2000-2005 knows how fucking good he was - global underground, deep tribal house mixes ... those are club destroying sets

with time comes evolution (unfortunately?) though, some like it, some hate it but when he does play those ultra rare tribal sets from now on, treat it like a real delicacy!

has anyone else gone through the electro phase really really quickly??
i hated electro house at first, then started to like the dirty grimy electro tracks, and now it has quickly worn off on me

for me rigth now im heavily into dark tribal and techno, i wonder if techno will grow more popularity in TO? imagine techno only parties at the guv lol - one massive cardio session knowing us

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CAKE
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quote:
Originally posted by PurpleHaze
imagine techno only parties at the guv lol - one massive cardio session knowing us


There are techno parties every weekend in Toronot there just not popular on this forum so people don't post them in the events thread.


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Kalemic
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quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
edit: I just also noticed from my little sypnosis that our music evolves almost mostly on backlashes and rejection lol


Anything defined as art tends to cycle like that, just look at fashion, skinny jeans one year, wide leg pants the next. Human wants are fascinating things.

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jon jon
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quote:
Originally posted by Kalemic
pants


lol


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Kalemic
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quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
lol


ahaha

I loves me some pants.

[whispering, serious voice]pantshouse, the next evolution [/whispering, serious voice]

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Lighthouse
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Location: Toronto, Canada

Spot on jon! [/QUOTE]

Originally posted by jon jon
progressive was backlash to trance
electro was backlash to progressive
techno is now a backlash to electro


I agree with this...except I wouldn't use the words "backlash" or "reaction to"...I think people learn from the genres, get tired of them, take elements and create something new. Most of these new genres get incorporated in one way or another as the house music co-evolves. Techno today is minimal techno, not the techno of 10-15 years ago which is horrific to listen to now. Min techno has complexity in it that techno of a decade ago did not...much of this texture comes from what has been learned in EDM from other genres such as progressive and electro. Now, I'm beginning to hear local min techno DJs starting to play in a much more progressive style as well, which will make this genre more accessible to a wider audience, IMO.

Personally, I think progression is a very important part of the continuity in a DJ's set and helps tremendously in gluing together the story. The Progressive genre is well suited to incorporate new styles /genres as they become available, be it tribal, min tech, electro, trance or whatever comes next...and therefore, and evolving Prog genre remains my favorite to dance and listen to. That is why Lawler remains one of my favorites DJs...be it Tribal, electro or minimal...he is still a prog DJ to me.

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jon jon
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quote:
Originally posted by Lighthouse
get tired of them, take elements and create something new.


So getting "tired of them", isn't the same as backlash? Talk about breaking my balls for syntax.


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Lighthouse
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quote:
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So getting tired of them, isn't the same as backlash? Talk about breaking my balls for syntax.


Not breaking your balls on semantics Jon Jon (I believe that is the appropriate word here, not syntax) but pointing out that "getting tired of something" is quite different from a "backlash" or rejection, especially in this context.

A backlash is a strong word for outright rejection and reaction in some opposite direction...I don't think that is true here in the case of co-evolution of EDM. I am making the point that although we may get tired of these forms as listeners, DJs, or producers, they still become an important part of our musical psyche and influence the way in which we listen to and create subsequent genres. That is why most of these genres eventually blend.

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jon jon
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haha semantics, you're right.

I guess it's hard to say and I can't really speak on behalf of every dj/producer or musical trendsetter. But for me sometimes it actually does seem like a "hatred" for said past genre.

An interview where Sasha was talking about "that kind of trance" that Ferry plays comes to mind, and how prog came out of it. Or a lot of the neo techo dj's of today really having no desire to hear Fedde Le Grand ever again.


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