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Originally posted by Lightshow WHOA, no plastic bags...what the hell is that, i like plastic bags, i say this because, like most people, i like to grab a whole bunch of those plastic bags from supermarkets and use them as garbage bags for small garbage bins. what am i gonna do for small garbage bags, buy them? come on give me a break, you wanna help the environment, how about encouraging the production of cars that run on sources of energy that do not pollute the air, they exist, but because oil=money, its not gonna happen anytime soon.

going to happen soon than you think.
and governments around the world are slowly making efforts to force car makers to clean up their act, but with the number of gas fueled cars in the world, you can't just change over night. it takes time.

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Originally posted by Skipper Your arguments just keep getting more and more ridiculous and non sensical. How does this kind of post invite any kind of adult discussion/debate?

because i already know how the discussion ends up... im just posting this stuff for amusement now as you may be able to gather.

considering all the major grocery stores are now selling reusable bags for a reasonable price ( about a buck each, with a wear and tear warranty) a ban may not be necessary for a decline to occur in plastic bag usage :P

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Originally posted by Jayx1 There is a movement to ban plastic bags in Toronto. I say sure, why not? Next we should ban living as that is also bad for the environment. Seriously whats the point of being an adult anymore? All it means is that mommy government takes over from mommy.

Does this really irk you????
OR
are you trying to provoke further debate about what governments should and shouldn't be able to legislate. (I do enjoy these)

Plastic bags do not decompose (and I can't recall seeing anyone recycle plastic bags). What is wrong with trying to decrease the frequency it which they are used. SERIOUSLY.

How does legislation inspired by the eco-friendly movement bother you ?

"patiently waiting for you to explain to me how this is about 'control and revenue'.


Now in regards to you mommy government comments

You are assuming everyone HAS a mommy.
OR that ALL mommy's are capable and considerate.

Things like this are necessary. Okay, we are not all dumb, but some of us are. Furthermore NOT all intelligent people are considerate. If it takes a few laws to enforce the minority of the population that is either ignorant or selfish (assuming it is a minority) to take a small effort in the conservation of our planet, then so be it.

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Originally posted by Flec considering all the major grocery stores are now selling reusable bags for a reasonable price ( about a buck each, with a wear and tear warranty) a ban may not be necessary for a decline to occur in plastic bag usage :P

+1...
I see everyone using them now.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 because i already know how the discussion ends up... im just posting this stuff for amusement now as you may be able to gather.

...hilarious

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Originally posted by Zentac_75 +1... I see everyone using them now.

pas moi.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar pas moi.

I exagerated.
I shop at no frills for everything but meat/produce. They don't even have plastic bags so most folks bring their own.

But I'm optimistic in a few years my comment will be more accurate.

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Originally posted by activate I see nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately we're a society of idiots who don't seem to fully understand how we're fucking up our planet. If we don't change our ways we're all going to be fucked... we've already shown that we can't do it on our own, so if a few changes need to be forced on us, so be it.

I agree... People have a variety of alternatives, like: those re-usable $1/piece bags, cloth bags, cardboard boxes that will be recycled afterwards, baskets... etc. We should strive to protect our environment.

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Originally posted by Zentac_75 I exagerated. I shop at no frills for everything but meat/produce. They don't even have plastic bags so most folks bring their own.

You can buy it for 5 cents a piece... same with Price Chopper and other discount grocery stores.

Who the fuck cares?

As long as they replace it with somthing I could give a shit.

The discussed ban is retarded in my household. Every grocery bag gets recycled as an under-sink garbage bag.

Without my recycling my grocery bags like this, I'll have to buy glad kitchen-catchers.

It's moving one problem from one pile over to another.

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