Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Of Earthzen and the Therethen
quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
""If someone comes to your home and you do not offer them a dish of opium on charcoal then they assume you are uncivilised," she said,
prompting Hossein to quickly offer to fire up a fresh batch. "
So you're saying that they offer each other opium the same way we might offer a visitor alcohol? Both of which I find to be equally damaging to a society.
Not to a 5 year old kid though, lol... seems sensationalist, youtube garbage.
Aug-21-2007 17:28
beefy k
I Eat Beats
Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus Is Dead
yeah... did you read all that from the internet or actually live somewhere in the mid east?
I am Iranian. My family and ALL Iranian families that I know are so anti-drug that they would make the Evangelicals look like the fucking Osbournes.
Don't generalize like that.
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Aug-21-2007 17:32
Orpheus Is Dead
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada OR Punjab, India
quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
But the kid is using it for recreational purposes. Not medicinal or therapeutic.
thats bad but it happens...I mean I'm in India and generally people don't smoke it here they eat it...but a lot of people come into the hospital due to opium stomach cancer...out in the agricultural areas people of low socioeconomic classes commonly do it..either that or ganja/bhung.
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Aug-21-2007 17:32
LoveHate
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Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver
maybe hes not a kid at all...but a midget!
btw alcohol is banned in iran for all ages..so this might be why,
Aug-21-2007 17:33
Frenchie
life in technocolor
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Intergalactic Planetary
Handing over a little kid Opium..handing over a gun... hmmmm which does more damage.
Aug-21-2007 17:33
Omega_M
Nostalgia
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Ether
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
If the kid's actually smoking to get high, then HOLY FUCK, what the hell?
It is wrong because the kid is not aware of the dangers of smoking the drug. He can smoke opium as much as he wants and kill himself when he grows up. That would be his own choice.
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Not to a 5 year old kid though, lol...
Originally posted by twilightki : It feels like something you'd listen to at 4 in the morning, or listen to in your car while you're going in a tunnel.
Aug-21-2007 17:35
beefy k
I Eat Beats
Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
I fail to see how it would be unacceptable for the kid to smoke a pain reliever for medical reasons; if that's the only ghetto ass way they know to administer the drug, then who the fuck are we to act high and mighty because we do it with enclosed needle systems in "fancy" hospitals?
Give me a break.
If the kid's actually smoking to get high, then HOLY FUCK, what the hell?
Buy the kid a fucking nintendo for fucks sake.
I can understand what the elder is saying in the video and it DEFINATELY isn't in the context of him administering it medically. Unfortunately this happens, but to narrow it down to being 'socially acceptable' in Iran is just false. Straight up.
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Aug-21-2007 17:35
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Perhaps sometimes products even stronger than "heroin".
Like fentanyl:
"* Alfentanil (trade name Alfenta), an ultra-short acting (5–10 minutes) analgesic,
* Sufentanil (trade name Sufenta), a potent analgesic (5 to 10 times more potent than fentanyl) for use in heart surgery.
* Remifentanil (trade name Ultiva), currently the shortest acting opioid, has the benefit of rapid offset, even after prolonged infusions.
* Carfentanil (trade name Wildnil) is an analogue of fentanyl with an analgesic potency 10,000 times that of morphine and is used in veterinary practice to immobilize certain large animals."
Originally posted by twilightki : It feels like something you'd listen to at 4 in the morning, or listen to in your car while you're going in a tunnel.
Aug-21-2007 17:41
Omega_M
Nostalgia
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Ether
quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Handing over a little kid Opium..handing over a gun... hmmmm which does more damage.
Originally posted by twilightki : It feels like something you'd listen to at 4 in the morning, or listen to in your car while you're going in a tunnel.
Aug-21-2007 17:41
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
Yes, Schedule II in the U.S.
Aug-21-2007 17:42
DJ Shibby
Amphoteric Superbase
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Of Earthzen and the Therethen
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Like fentanyl:
"* Alfentanil (trade name Alfenta), an ultra-short acting (5–10 minutes) analgesic,
* Sufentanil (trade name Sufenta), a potent analgesic (5 to 10 times more potent than fentanyl) for use in heart surgery.
* Remifentanil (trade name Ultiva), currently the shortest acting opioid, has the benefit of rapid offset, even after prolonged infusions.
* Carfentanil (trade name Wildnil) is an analogue of fentanyl with an analgesic potency 10,000 times that of morphine and is used in veterinary practice to immobilize certain large animals."