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Originally posted by Q5echo that bomber was made for one thing and that is to run a suicide gauntlet across the Urals into Europe and maybe over the pole into our Northern territories. aside from that it's useless.

Thats not what those bombers are designed for, not for fun toy-rides or passenger express. And they can go half-way around Earth (far enough).

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when?

Russian weapons have not been used widely outside of Russia since 1950s, and mostly they have lacked other important logistics ... air support, for example. I mean, how can you protect a top-of-the-class Russian tank without air support in a battle? In Korean war, Soviet plans dominated the skies. In WW2 we smashed the powerful Nazi armies. For most part Russian arms have been used in proportions during conflicts since WW2, and they didnt break down or stopped firing ... the politics of war can sometimes defeat much better armed troops. But the experience of using these arms has shown these buyers of Russian arms to buy what they expect ... AK-47, for example is a classic proven successful assault rifle that is unparalleled in cost, design and efficiency. Though you cant give credit to it for winning any large conflicts, it has had it parts.

When USA is on the other side of any conflict, it will be hard for Russian weapons to make the impact that they have been waiting for in the last 50+ years ...

P.S. Don't forget, it was only the Russian-made missiles that have so far been able to shoot down American stealth craft ... imagine having these guns in big numbers and supported by strong army and air defense ... then they'll make a difference. One-two Russian anti-missile batteries cant make much difference against NATO forces many thousands strong.

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Last edited by Magnetonium on Aug-22-2007 at 11:55

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Originally posted by Q5echo i'm all for Putin waxing nostalgic for the good-ole-days. whatever makes him feel like a man

Unlike the bunch of neoconservatives that managed to infest your own government right? (Or you OWN comments on the Chavez thread?!)

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Russian weapons have not been used widely outside of Russia since 1950s, and mostly they have lacked other important logistics ... air support, for example. I mean, how can you protect a top-of-the-class Russian tank without air support in a battle? In Korean war, Soviet plans dominated the skies. In WW2 we smashed the powerful Nazi armies. For most part Russian arms have been used in proportions during conflicts since WW2, and they didnt break down or stopped firing ... the politics of war can sometimes defeat much better armed troops. But the experience of using these arms has shown these buyers of Russian arms to buy what they expect ... AK-47, for example is a classic proven successful assault rifle that is unparalleled in cost, design and efficiency. Though you cant give credit to it for winning any large conflicts, it has had it parts. When USA is on the other side of any conflict, it will be hard for Russian weapons to make the impact that they have been waiting for in the last 50+ years ... P.S. Don't forget, it was only the Russian-made missiles that have so far been able to shoot down American stealth craft ... imagine having these guns in big numbers and supported by strong army and air defense ... then they'll make a difference. One-two Russian anti-missile batteries cant make much difference against NATO forces many thousands strong.

wtf are going on about dude?

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Originally posted by George Smiley Unlike the bunch of neoconservatives that managed to infest your own government right? (Or you OWN comments on the Chavez thread?!)

yeah, but we're on a mission from God.

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Originally posted by Q5echo wtf are going on about dude?

You asked when they were successful ...

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