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Acid John
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Close south suburb of Chicago, illinois, usa.

side note - anyone know how daft punk does their live sets?

a while back i got an mp3 of their set at coachella in 06. then i got to see em live at lollapalooza this summer. very. very. VERY disappointing. granted, it was still fun to see them, but the set i saw sounded nearly exactly like the set that i had heard from a year ago...

also, it seemed fishy that in their giant triangle/booth thing they dj in, there was never any video shows on the projectors of them actually doing anything.

i had heard that they use abelton. now im beginning to think otherwise. any ideas on this one?


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Old Post Aug-24-2007 11:28  United States
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Drake44444
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Registered: Apr 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA

http://www.customessayhelp.com/daftpunkpyramid.html

Check that out - its inside the pyramid, with a description of what is used.

Daft Punk def use ableton. I have seen them on the 2006 tour (coachella) and also in 2007 and have multiple sets i've downloaded, ahd followed some of the threads on a couple ableton forums as well as reading some interviews.

The following is my guess after using ableton and thinking about their set and what they say (not to say its my own original idea, its just what I have been thinking about).

I think they have all the parts laid out in session view, and they trigger them with the BCR.

- The synths are used for tweaking, as they say, and effects are through the synth and through ableton

- My guess is they have a template (each set is exactly the same except for length of songs, effects, EQ, etc). They trigger the samples as they go. Its possible they may have gotten lazy and lay some things out in arrangement view, but I haven't really looked into it closely.


There are some people who are really skeptical that Daft Punk does much of anything at all, others who think they are doing a ton.

The video cordination was always an issue, but apparently they have power to control it in the box as well.

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EDIT- ONE MORE NOTE:
Either way, the set itself is probably so easy for Daft Punk to pull off. To the average Ableton user and in the huge crowd atmosphere it would be a challenge, but its nothing particularly challenging. The impressive feat was conceptualizing, designing, and finalizing the set to the point that it really blew away everyone at coachella. And I guess as they play more and more, and everyone is getting a chance to see them, they are losing some of the mystique

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Acid John
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Close south suburb of Chicago, illinois, usa.

oh my jesus...
the inside the pyramid thing looks fucking awesome.

so.. for now, i guess they just found a system that works and are sticking to it.


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blacknoizybox
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Location: Kyiv, Ukraine

the wierdest setup for live performances i've seen - only 4 synths and all the same... i expected a variety or stuff from Virus, Nord etc.

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Drake44444
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Originally posted by blacknoizybox
the wierdest setup for live performances i've seen - only 4 synths and all the same... i expected a variety or stuff from Virus, Nord etc.


yeah well that increases the speculation that they don't really use them, and/or just use them for minor ableton tweaking

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nrjizer
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bumfuck, GA

Having seen Daft Punk twice now, my theories are as follows:

-Their overall set has been the same because

a) It was so fucking badass that I honestly believe there is no way in hell they could possibly top it (musically), and thus:

b) If they tried to do a new and different set each time using only their relatively limited discography, they would probably disappoint a lot of people at their shows who had seen the Coachella videos and heard the recordings and had certain expectations.

c) Each song in their discography has a certain set of visual elements and patterns that go along with it, and that obviously requires at least some degree of pre-planning and coordination (there are 10 people, including Thomas and Guy Manuel, that run their live show).



-They are definately not just pushing play on a sequencer and pretending to control the sound. For one thing, Daft Punk has done live sets before in the 90's. They obviously know how to do it. Also, having listened to the Coachella recording countless times, and then having seen them again at Berkeley last month, there are definately differences that you can tell are being done live. They probably are using a template, though.


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blacknoizybox
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Registered: Jun 2005
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quote:
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... seen the Coachella videos...


video? does it exist (i mean official DVD)? i would love to see that. right now i'm downloading tons of performance videos from emule

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jupiterone
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I'm sure Daft Punks live sets are pre-layered sessions in Ableton. They have a handful of Lemurs that they use to manage the session itself. A lot of their homework and discovery album uses the Voyager synth so I'd predict that they use it to automate pre-recorded midi signals already in Ableton.

I highly doubt they cook up everything in real time.

And to be honest, the virus/nord aren't that amazing synths.

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Jeremy H
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Originally posted by Kazinator


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blacknoizybox
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hot lesbians appear to be pre-layered too?

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