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Originally posted by Zharen I can not believe this. So in another bold move, President Bush further threatens the sovereignty of our nation by opening up our borders to Mexican truck drivers. If this really does go through, not only will he hurt trucking businesses in the US, but he will also put me and everyone I know and care about in further danger on the roads. I can not believe this fucking prick. How dare you put our own personal safety aside just so your corporate friends can profit even more? I can not wait for this globalist prick to leave office in 2008.

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Originally posted by Zharen If this really does go through, not only will he hurt trucking businesses in the US, but he will also put me and everyone I know and care about in further danger on the roads.

i can see you having problems with the us truck business being hurt (i can see why, but i think its very shortsighted).... .but why exactly will you be in further danger on the roads?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r So what's your stance on Canadian drivers then Zharen?

I don't really have a problem with it. The answer is simple, the Canucks can read, write and speak English. That would make them less of a threat on the roads, generally speaking, since they can understand the signs and caution labels. The second point is the illegal immigration issue. You don't see wave after wave of Canadians trying to flood into this country, they seem rather content with their own country, as they should be. If Mexican truck drivers have access to our road system, what's to stop them from piling illegals alongside their cargo and then drop them off at whichever highway off-ramp is deemed convenient for them?

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby: Wow, that seems a bit racist. Are you trying to insinuate that white anglo-saxon americans drive better than mexican truckers? Doubtful. Truckers always have more stringent rules to follow than general motorists. Seriously, the way you said this was quite feckered up.

Oh please. Everytime someone tries to defend the borders here in America, he/she is automatically dubbed as a racist. It's one of the most despicable low-blow tactics I have witnessed in politics. For your information, I happen to be part Mexican, my father actually took the time and effort to apply for citizenship, and received it after 15 years of hard work in this country.

Back to your statement, no, I'm not insinuating that Mexican drivers are worse than American drivers per se, but I think it's common sense that Mexican drivers will be at a real disadvantage on US roads if they don't understand the language, how could they understand the road signs? And what about the condition of the trucks themselves? Exactly how competent and thorough are the inspectors in Mexico when it comes to the driveability of their own vehicles? And lastly, what about insurance policies? What if a Mexican truck driver crashes into my car and is at fault? Will their company reimburse me for the loss of my vehicle and/or my hospital bills if there is one? If there aren't any repercussions for them to suffer if they collide with other vehicles on the roadways, what's to keep them from driving safely in the first place? These are some serious questions that need answering and personally, I feel my own safety is compromised if the screening process for Mexican drivers and regulations for them to follow aren't set to high standards. To summarize, it's not about which race can drive safer than the other, it's about what rules will be put into place to enforce safe driving for Mexican truck drivers. And frankly, I feel that whatever rules that are put into place will be inadequate for my own liking.

Looks like they've delayed their plans to open the borders over the Labor Day Weekend.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/...31mextruck.html

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Critics, including several trucking and safety organizations and dozens of lawmakers, complain the administration has failed to guarantee the trucks will be safe. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Alpine, blasted the Department of Transportation for “demonstrating complete disregard for the safety of vehicle motorists and the security threat created by granting Mexican truckers unrestricted access into the United States.”

I'll be sure to vote for Duncan Hunter in 08. Seems like he's the only candidate who actually gives a damn about border security.

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Originally posted by Zharen I don't really have a problem with it. The answer is simple, the Canucks can read, write and speak English. That would make them less of a threat on the roads, generally speaking, since they can understand the signs and caution labels. The second point is the illegal immigration issue. You don't see wave after wave of Canadians trying to flood into this country, they seem rather content with their own country, as they should be. If Mexican truck drivers have access to our road system, what's to stop them from piling illegals alongside their cargo and then drop them off at whichever highway off-ramp is deemed convenient for them? Oh please. Everytime someone tries to defend the borders here in America, he/she is automatically dubbed as a racist. It's one of the most despicable low-blow tactics I have witnessed in politics. For your information, I happen to be part Mexican, my father actually took the time and effort to apply for citizenship, and received it after 15 years of hard work in this country. Back to your statement, no, I'm not insinuating that Mexican drivers are worse than American drivers per se, but I think it's common sense that Mexican drivers will be at a real disadvantage on US roads if they don't understand the language, how could they understand the road signs? And what about the condition of the trucks themselves? Exactly how competent and thorough are the inspectors in Mexico when it comes to the driveability of their own vehicles? And lastly, what about insurance policies? What if a Mexican truck driver crashes into my car and is at fault? Will their company reimburse me for the loss of my vehicle and/or my hospital bills if there is one? If there aren't any repercussions for them to suffer if they collide with other vehicles on the roadways, what's to keep them from driving safely in the first place? These are some serious questions that need answering and personally, I feel my own safety is compromised if the screening process for Mexican drivers and regulations for them to follow aren't set to high standards. To summarize, it's not about which race can drive safer than the other, it's about what rules will be put into place to enforce safe driving for Mexican truck drivers. And frankly, I feel that whatever rules that are put into place will be inadequate for my own liking.

You really think governments are that incompetent? I'm sure no one else thought of any of those points and they never implemented any sort of regulation to counteract any potential problems. I mean, surely you've read the current regulations put in place and found it lacking in all those points you mention, right? God forbid any of those government people would have half a brain and lay out a good plan. And as for the 'english' advantage, come on, you think these people won't get any training? You think it's that hard to be bilingual? You think the companies using the truckers won't give a rats ass about having drivers that can actually read. It is funny how you think Mexico and Mexican are some sort of backward ass idiots how can't figure out how to run a proper truck company, with insurance and all. I'm sure as soon as they're allowed on American roads they'll start smuggling people in trucks. I mean, it's not like theres checks at the boarder or anything.

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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Originally posted by Zharen Back to your statement, no, I'm not insinuating that Mexican drivers are worse than American drivers per se, but I think it's common sense that Mexican drivers will be at a real disadvantage on US roads if they don't understand the language, how could they understand the road signs? And lastly, what about insurance policies? What if a Mexican truck driver crashes into my car and is at fault? Will their company reimburse me for the loss of my vehicle and/or my hospital bills if there is one?

Yeah, because it's really difficult to understand the same small series of different-shaped, brightly colored road signs.

As for the insurance bit, I'm sure this has been thought of. These truckers will need to stop at weigh stations just like every other trucker, and if they don't have proper credentials, they'll get in deep shit. Their company won't risk loosing their supply like that.

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Originally posted by venomX I'm sure as soon as they're allowed on American roads they'll start smuggling people in trucks. I mean, it's not like theres checks at the boarder or anything.

Yeah, I imagine it would be rather difficult to sneak people over in trucks unless you paid someone off (in which case you're getting over anyway)... electromagnetic heat detection's a bitch.

Let's face it: this isn't east and west germany we're talking about here. If someone wants to get across the border THAT badly, they will.

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Originally posted by venomX You really think governments are that incompetent?

Short answer: yes. The Bush Administration has given me no reason to believe otherwise. I no longer have any faith in this system.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Wow, that seems a bit racist. Are you trying to insinuate that white anglo-saxon americans drive better than mexican truckers? Doubtful. Truckers always have more stringent rules to follow than general motorists. Seriously, the way you said this was quite feckered up.

I think your the racist!!!! Want to know why? Because you used the word RACIST so Fast.