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Originally posted by JonDC care to elaborate? baring in mind im talking about 80 minute mix CD's, not live sets

If you look to the likes of Armin for a good mix CD, you're not looking very far...

I could name a ton of interesting, different and well executed mix CDs, but I doubt any of them would be of any interest to you as they're not trance.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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I could name a ton of interesting, different and well executed mix CDs, but I doubt any of them would be of any interest to you as they're not trance.

i'm interested

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Originally posted by Drake44444 i'm interested

Try James Holden - At The Controls.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Try James Holden - At The Controls.

fuck man, i thought at the controls was terrible. "try balance 005" is what he meant to say.

good tunes...interesting transitions...flow


that's about it.

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Originally posted by Clovis If you look to the likes of Armin for a good mix CD, you're not looking very far...

You are making some fairly big assumptions here arent you.
I do listen to Armin CD's - but as you can read I feel that some of them are lacking (though I love Universal Religion 2004, which is an example of what I do look for in a mix CD)

However, they are not the only CD's I listen to - otherwise I wouldnt be able to tell you the difference between a good and bad mix CD would I?

Furthermore, you said it sounds like I've never seen a good DJ before.
At what point was I talking about live sets?? I'm not going to start mentioning DJ's I've seen in hope that you will like one of them, but I've been going clubbing for 4 years and I've seen a fair few.

DO you want to add something to the thread instead of just gobbing off at people you dont know?

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Originally posted by Clovis I could name a ton of interesting, different and well executed mix CDs, but I doubt any of them would be of any interest to you as they're not trance.

Ok, so it sounds like ive never herd a good DJ before because you dont like trance?

To be frank, Jon, what everybody is saying is that trance DJs are actually really terrible at DJing, and the vast majority of the most famous ones can't (or won't) do what you are asking. They can't scratch, don't backspin, don't quick-cut (without making it sound lousy), don't edit, don't phrase-lock, and don't rewind. They discriminate, they ignore, they pander, they block, and they paint themselves into musical corners where they only play the previous months chart toppers of a single genre in every set, effectively ignoring 99.8% of electronic music's discography. This worsens as they are contractually obligated and financially motivated to only play their own productions and the productions of their label and their label's partners.

In short, the trance scene is not interested in making good music that you will enjoy. It's interested in making a product that you will consume. Marketing controls the music, not creativity, and you will listen to whatever they tell you is good.

Off the top of my head, this is a good mix cd. But it's not trance, because no trance DJ has the skill, the creativity, the ingenuity, or the ambition to do anything like this.

I think you just have to think of what you've been up to in either your bedroom or out at the club and try and find those songs you think are really doing it for you, I personally like to put a bunch aside or make a mental note on specific tunes I think would work really great in my next demo. In fact, within one day of putting out a demo I seem to be going back, rethinking and hearing new songs or getting different ideas for the next promo.

Personally, I'm trying to share music people can enjoy and have that number of people be as large as possible. I know two things, you can't please everybody, and not everyone likes what you like. Each and every song is going to be percieved differently by different people and thats for sure, but sometimes you can trick people into hearing other sounds or styles of music they may not have appreciated prior.

It's about exposing people to music they haven't heard and can still boogie down to and if they have some of the songs on the mix, hopefully they can enjoy them in a fresh new memorable context.


It's about getting into someones house and taking over their stereo!

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I enjoy working with some kind of central theme or concept to build a mix. Crossing between related styles to provide a sense of dynamism in the mix is important. With proper track selection one can actually end up relatively far from where it all began, but I tend to orchestrate things in a fairly tight fashion, encouraging a smooth flow from track to track. Of course, this also depends on the style; progressive lends itself well to smooth mixing, whereas the more energetic styles could benefit from more drastic and surprising transitions. In the mix, it all depends on what you're looking to achieve... and in my case, I've usually gone for the smooth journey.

Anyhow, I would suggest sampling a few of my mixes... plenty of time when into them, and I am quite happy with how they all turned out--not perfect, but a fine experience all the same. Here's a few that show a slow yet deliberate transition through a number of different styles/moods:
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music...k-heliocentric/
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music...tic-revelation/
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music...t-harvest-2006/

I drop hip-hop, trance, breaks, dnb, and everything else in my sets.

People seem to enjoy them.

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I've listened to a lot of good recorded mixes that really only cover one style of music throughout. The reason why I like them is for their nice flow, and hopefully that the set atleast somewhat builds in energy toward the end of the mix.

As for seeing a DJ live, I am not so complacent to just hear one style of music. I enjoy it most when they explore different genres to keep you guessing what is next, and keep the party going with a slightly new vibe every so often.

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Originally posted by JonDC You are making some fairly big assumptions here arent you. I do listen to Armin CD's - but as you can read I feel that some of them are lacking (though I love Universal Religion 2004, which is an example of what I do look for in a mix CD) However, they are not the only CD's I listen to - otherwise I wouldnt be able to tell you the difference between a good and bad mix CD would I? Furthermore, you said it sounds like I've never seen a good DJ before. At what point was I talking about live sets?? I'm not going to start mentioning DJ's I've seen in hope that you will like one of them, but I've been going clubbing for 4 years and I've seen a fair few. DO you want to add something to the thread instead of just gobbing off at people you dont know? Ok, so it sounds like ive never herd a good DJ before because you dont like trance?

Not much to say that hasn't already been said by Ishkur and Allied.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.