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Originally posted by Capitalizt found another fan-made video on Youtube...There are some awesome quotes from Paul in here:

Wow, this video is quite powerful.

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Originally posted by twilightki : It feels like something you'd listen to at 4 in the morning, or listen to in your car while you're going in a tunnel.

Fuck this guy is truly awesome!!! I just doubt the Yanks are smart enough to vote for a guy like him.


We could use him up here tho for a prime minister position.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Fuck this guy is truly awesome!!! I just doubt the Yanks are smart enough to vote for a guy like him. We could use him up here tho for a prime minister position.

He might actually have a decent chance at winning if recent online and tv polls are any indication. Under that assumption, unfortunately, most Americans won't be smart enough figure out that diebolt and the 2000 fraudulent vote counts actually have real implications about the functionality of the voting system reflecting the actual votes.

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I like Ron as well, but I think he scares the shit out of a lot of people with his fringe thinking.
It's not really 'fringe' but by frame of reference with where America stands now it sure is...

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Paul vs Huckabee..

He may have "bitchslapped" the neo-cons, but Huckabee still seemed to generate more applause from the crowd with his comments. This tells me two things:

1) The GOP and its base have long abandoned reason and ideas in favour of empty platitudes.
2) Ron Paul is not going to get the nomination.

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Giuliani, who still hasn't gotten over getting Pwnt with facts by Paul in the first few debates.

Ron Paul: Iraq was an illadvised strategy that has benefitted the proponants of terror far more than it has benefitted the US.
Giuliani: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11!
Crowd: [wild applause]

Ron Paul seems to have strong support among disaffected libertarians on the internet - and this seems to be the foundation of his candidacy (much like disaffected liberals and Howard Dean in 2004) - but that seems to be about the extent of it. He's never going to win the support of the Republican rank and file so long as they're impressed by the blind-to-reality platitudes of the other candidates. Sad as it might be, the GOP has long since abandoned the small-government ideals that Ron Paul stands for. It's now the party of military adventurism, civil authoritarianism and overt religiosity - where does Ron Paul fit into all this?

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Fuckin Giuliani it is like he has swallowd a tape recorder or something,all he says is 911 this and 911 that.

Are people actually falling for his bullshit over there?


It is going to be extremly difficult for a guy like Ron Paul to lead the polls since most of his own party dont support him on anything.

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Here is the full Giuliani exchange including Paul's follow up.
Of course Ron Paul was correct regarding blowback for our military intervention overseas.. He listed the reasons Bin Laden himself gave for attacking us and Giuliani claims it's an "absurd explanation". I think it's pretty damn scary for a presidential candidate to be so ignorant of world affairs..

FoxGOP debates, Ron Paul

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BIN LADEN'S FATWA (Why Ron Paul was Factually Correct) This is Bin Laden's declaration of War against the United States, made in 1996. He cites (1) US Involvement in the Middle East, (2) Palestine, and (3) Sanctions on Iraq resulting in 200,000+ civilian deaths as reasons why he has declared war.

To believe what Giuliani stated, that they hate us because of "our freedom", you must also believe in the tooth fairy..

Neocons are such dumbazzes. I hope they lose HUGE next year.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z He might actually have a decent chance at winning if recent online and tv polls are any indication. Under that assumption, unfortunately, most Americans won't be smart enough figure out that diebolt and the 2000 fraudulent vote counts actually have real implications about the functionality of the voting system reflecting the actual votes.

yeah. i do not understand the complacency with which the US adopted electronic voting. fuck that, totally unacceptable.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt If Ron Paul ever does drop out...I hope he will encourage all of his supporters and anyone who truly believes in the Constitution to throw their support behind the Libertarian Party. They may not have a snowball's chance of winning in 08'...but if their base is large enough, the other parties will be forced to co-opt libertarian positions if they hope to win elections in the future.. Socialists did the same thing back in the early 1900's.. The socialist party in America was becoming quite popular, and the democrats, fearing becoming obsolete, decided to take much of the socialist platform and make it their own...This is what gave us federal welfare, medicare, social security, a steeply progressive income tax (up to 91% under FDR, etc), tons of new government agencies, etc. Basically the entire New Deal was an extension of the socialist platform. The socialist party candidate didn't make it into office, but because of overwhelming grassroots support for their ideas, nearly the entire socialist agenda was passed into law by a "major" political party. Hopefully we can accomplish the same thing by building a LIBERTY-oriented movement...focused on reducing government power, defending the Constitution, and giving people more control over their lives.. It's just a matter of educating people and building support on the grassroots level. If our numbers get large enough, there is no way the two-parties can continue ignoring these issues.

Great point.