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ResonantDrag
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quick question for you money folk..

how much can the spike in oil prices be attributed to the decline of the dollar? i heard some crap about refineries in Texas, but that just doesn't make the sell.

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NeoPhono
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I think what scares me the most about the rapid devaluing of the dollar is the lack of public outcry as well as any tangible plans to stop the skid. We hear daily of how the dollar has reached new lows against various other currencies, even thoughts of US institutions thinking of using the Euro as their main currency. However, what we don't hear is how the "Fed" is trying to stop the skid or Americans becoming upset over the loss of buying power in the dollar. I'm not sure how bad things have to get before we start to hear these things, but when we're at 30+ year lows with no sign of slowing the descent of the dollar in site, I wonder how much worse it has to get.

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infinity HiGH
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quote:
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lack of public outcry


People have more important things to worry about like iPhones, football, etc etc.

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Fir3start3r
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quote:
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People have more important things to worry about like iPhones, football, etc etc.


That probably has more validity than it should.
And sadly, most likely true...


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atbell
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Registered: May 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by ResonantDrag
quick question for you money folk..

how much can the spike in oil prices be attributed to the decline of the dollar? i heard some crap about refineries in Texas, but that just doesn't make the sell.


I think it's the other way around.

The dollar is dropping so oil apears to be rising.

To confirm, see if oil has risen in terms of the Euro or the Yen.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono
I think what scares me the most about the rapid devaluing of the dollar is the lack of public outcry as well as any tangible plans to stop the skid. We hear daily of how the dollar has reached new lows against various other currencies, even thoughts of US institutions thinking of using the Euro as their main currency. However, what we don't hear is how the "Fed" is trying to stop the skid or Americans becoming upset over the loss of buying power in the dollar. I'm not sure how bad things have to get before we start to hear these things, but when we're at 30+ year lows with no sign of slowing the descent of the dollar in site, I wonder how much worse it has to get.


What's got to happen is that people start getting hit in thier wallet. Initially the public is just plain going to be confused about why they are always going into debt just living the same life they have been for years. Then they are going to start cutting back on spending but they will still be going into debt. That's when people are going to start getting angry.

I just did an experiment in adjusting living standards and it's not easy. Each year for the past two years my income has been cut in half and I got to experience what it's like to have to change spending habbits.

The first difficulty I had was with big ticket items. Not being able to buy furniture when I needed it was a bit of a shock, or having to realize that I couldn't afford new things but had to search for used items.

The next difficulty was constraining smaller purchases such as clothing, CD's, and Books. In my past position I didn't even have to consider buying any of these things on a whim, but on a constrained income each of these less nesscary things becomes treacerous.

Then there is food expenditures, less money means less eating out.

And housing is a big one. Settling for cheaper places is difficult. I'm betting that this will be a big problem in the US cities as forigners live in the best parts of town and locals must settle for second rate housing.

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mndeg
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people aren't worrying about inflation because it has yet to manifest itself in an increase of daily living expenses probably because china is subsidizing our buying spree


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