There is still mixing involved in the recording. You just don't push record on a recorder and then put the recorded file on cd...

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Originally posted by Dj EntycE There is still mixing involved in the recording. You just don't push record on a recorder and then put the recorded file on cd...

So that makes a 'cover' version a 'remix' ?

No.

A cover version is a version of someone else's song / track that retains all the original musical elements and arrangement.

A remix is where another producer has changed the musical elements / arrangement / tempo etc of the original version.

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Originally posted by Wicked Neo So that makes a 'cover' version a 'remix' ? No. A cover version is a version of someone else's song / track that retains all the original musical elements and arrangement. A remix is where another producer has changed the musical elements / arrangement / tempo etc of the original version.

So why then are acoustic, chilled versions of hard rock songs (or vice versa) considered covers?

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Originally posted by Dj EntycE There is still mixing involved in the recording. You just don't push record on a recorder and then put the recorded file on cd...

Mixing isn't remixing, those things have different meanings. Most of the time it's not the artist who does the mixdown anyway.

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Originally posted by idoru So why then are acoustic, chilled versions of hard rock songs (or vice versa) considered covers?

Well now that's just silly. Unless all they are doing is changing the tempo and replaying the thing.

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The reason for this discrepancy here is that in practice, remix is only ever applied to EDM, and cover is only ever applied to rock. Despite the fact that they refer to different methods, they've come to mean the same thing, just in different genres.

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Originally posted by Wicked Neo So that makes a 'cover' version a 'remix' ? No. A cover version is a version of someone else's song / track that retains all the original musical elements and arrangement. A remix is where another producer has changed the musical elements / arrangement / tempo etc of the original version.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex The reason for this discrepancy here is that in practice, remix is only ever applied to EDM, and cover is only ever applied to rock. Despite the fact that they refer to different methods, they've come to mean the same thing, just in different genres.

Not true. Take "Your Loving Arms" for example. You have remixes:
Billie Ray Martin - Your Loving Arms (Brothers In Rhythm Remix)
...and you also have a cover:
Karen Overton - Your Loving Arms

Cover versions do exist in dance music. I'd say the main technical difference is that a cover version involves a re-performance, where as a remix merely involves additional mixing and production of someone else's performance. This is why it's rarer to see covers of instrumentals- there's little "performance" as such in either version.

A lot of the reasoning behind why something is labelled as a cover or a remix is about the money, credits and release of a track. Remixers often get paid only one fixed, upfront fee, where as the main artist gets royalties.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Not true. Take "Your Loving Arms" for example. You have remixes: Billie Ray Martin - Your Loving Arms (Brothers In Rhythm Remix) ...and you also have a cover: Karen Overton - Your Loving Arms Cover versions do exist in dance music. I'd say the main technical difference is that a cover version involves a re-performance, where as a remix merely involves additional mixing and production of someone else's performance. This is why it's rarer to see covers of instrumentals- there's little "performance" as such in either version.

Fair enough, there are still musicians and producers who maintain the technical distinction, and I'm not arguing with that definition. But like I said, that's not how it's used by the majority in practice.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Cover versions do exist in dance music.

sorry to get off topic but has anyone heard manson's cover of "personal jesus"

what an awful, awful "cover" just awful

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