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Originally posted by CHRles Is this the part where Borat comes in and tells you that his sister is the number 4 prostitue in all of Kazakhstan?

Hey, Kazakhstan actually had some groundbreaking democratic reforms recently, and hardly noticed by the Western media.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Hey, Kazakhstan actually had some groundbreaking democratic reforms recently, and hardly noticed by the Western media.

Does 'democratic' reforms only mean everything? Why cant a country be socialist or autocratic or fundamentally relegious if its people wants so and demand the same respect?

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Originally posted by Purple Does 'democratic' reforms only mean everything? Why cant a country be socialist or autocratic or fundamentally relegious if its people wants so and demand the same respect?

Why would you think the Kazakhstan people and the parliament would pass those amendments then by a majority and Nazarbayev receiving praises from such human rights watchdogs as Radio Free Europe?

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Why would you think the Kazakhstan people and the parliament would pass those amendments then by a majority and Nazarbayev receiving praises from such human rights watchdogs as Radio Free Europe?

I am not refering to Kazak, but countries like Iran and Iraq who are frowned upon even when their own people dont want democracy and chose Saddam as their hero (majority) and slightly autocratic relegious system in Iran which its own people vote for.. why would world force them to be democratic when they dont want that system? Its basicly is the same through out Middle East.. Democracy is not that popular in Middle East and Africa as people think of it..

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Originally posted by Purple Does 'democratic' reforms only mean everything? Why cant a country be socialist or autocratic or fundamentally relegious if its people wants so and demand the same respect?

Autocracy means all the power is in the hands of one individual, which usually translates into a dictator. North Korea is the perfect example.

A fundamentally religious government is vastly different from a country whose people are deeply religious. Let me give you some for instances: A fundamentally Catholic government comes to power in France - what do you think would happen to the 10 percent of the population that is Muslim? Or a fundamentally religious Hindu government forms in India - what happens to the 15 percent of the population that is Muslim?

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Originally posted by Purple I am not refering to Kazak, but countries like Iran and Iraq who are frowned upon even when their own people dont want democracy and chose Saddam as their hero (majority)

Their hero? Is that how the Kurds would describe him? Is that how the Shiites in Iraq, who are the majority of the population, would describe him? Is that how all Sunnis in Iraq described him?

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Originally posted by LatinLover This is not funny! Our brave and men and women are not terrorist. We have the finest and the most professional military men in the world. Clearly we are not terrorists, the US has all the right to label the Quods as a terrorist organization. These thugs train Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups.

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Originally posted by CHRles Their hero? Is that how the Kurds would describe him? Is that how the Shiites in Iraq, who are the majority of the population, would describe him? Is that how all Sunnis in Iraq described him?

Hey comooooon.. I am just using the US theory.. thats is ..

1. If you dont like USA than its = you are a terrorist..

2. If being an Iraqi you dont like USA and confront them than thats = you are ex-Sadddam's men who should be shot dead or hanged or killed..

And clearly majority of Iraqi dont like US.. so thats = majority like Saddam and are loyal to him.

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Originally posted by CHRles Autocracy means all the power is in the hands of one individual, which usually translates into a dictator. North Korea is the perfect example.

NK is not exactly a perfect example of autocracy, I will give you a perfect example of autocracy.. :

And that is Saudi Arabia, which is literally run by its Saudi king, this one man runs the whole country and its prefect for them.. they want it that way..

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Originally posted by CHRles A fundamentally religious government is vastly different from a country whose people are deeply religious. Let me give you some for instances: A fundamentally Catholic government comes to power in France - what do you think would happen to the 10 percent of the population that is Muslim? Or a fundamentally religious Hindu government forms in India - what happens to the 15 percent of the population that is Muslim?

You agree that Iran is somewhat a fundamentally religious government right? Do you know that their are many Christians living peacfully a happy life in Iran?

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Saudi Arabia is more of a monrachy like Oman, isn't it?

I know countries like Jordan, Bahrain, quatar, and the UAE are moanrchies as well, though more of a consitutional monarchy rather then an absolute one.

Saudi Arabia is a more religious country then some of the other Middle Eastern countries I've mentioned, though the royal family isn't particularly religious. That's why you always read about them going to places like Vegas...

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Originally posted by Purple You agree that Iran is somewhat a fundamentally religious government right? Do you know that their are many Christians living peacfully a happy life in Iran?

I know there are Christians, Jews, and Bahaii in Iran, and they're allowed to practive their religion, but what do you base this happy life mantra on?

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Originally posted by CHRles I know there are Christians, Jews, and Bahaii in Iran, and they're allowed to practive their religion, but what do you base this happy life mantra on?

You mean they are opressed and tortured and frowned and raped in Iran because they are Christians, Jews, and Bahaii?

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Originally posted by CHRles Saudi Arabia is more of a monrachy like Oman, isn't it? I know countries like Jordan, Bahrain, quatar, and the UAE are moanrchies as well, though more of a consitutional monarchy rather then an absolute one. Saudi Arabia is a more religious country then some of the other Middle Eastern countries I've mentioned, though the royal family isn't particularly religious. That's why you always read about them going to places like Vegas...

Whats the difference between monarchy and autocracy? One is called king and other is called dictator by western world .. its one man show in both..

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Purple, do you mind if I start a new thread about Saudi Arabia, and my take on the rulers of that country?