If any foreign country came to occupy my country, I would take up arms just like them...

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Originally posted by Krypton If any foreign country came to occupy my country, I would take up arms just like them...

wow. thats so profound. i'm crying

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Originally posted by George Smiley The only criticism I have over American involvement in the Balkans during the 90s was that they did get stuck in sooner. American intervention was not only completely justified imo, but the people being fucked over by the Serbs were crying out for international intervention...

Americans started the war in bosnia, specifically their ambassador Zimmerman who promised military support to the muslims before the war, it was very similar to Afghanistan.
As for regrets , I regret that America didn't go into Baghdad in 91 instead of 2003, I regret 9/11 didn't happen sooner and I regret a 4th plane didn't hit get to hit a whitehouse and I regret a serbian crew didn't do it. So I have lots of regrets but I have to live with it and learn from it .

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Originally posted by erdega Americans started the war in bosnia, specifically their ambassador Zimmerman who promised military support to the muslims before the war, it was very similar to Afghanistan. As for regrets , I regret that America didn't go into Baghdad in 91 instead of 2003, I regret 9/11 didn't happen sooner and I regret a 4th plane didn't hit get to hit a whitehouse and I regret a serbian crew didn't do it. So I have lots of regrets but I have to live with it and learn from it .

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Originally posted by erdega Americans started the war in bosnia, specifically their ambassador Zimmerman who promised military support to the muslims before the war, it was very similar to Afghanistan. As for regrets , I regret that America didn't go into Baghdad in 91 instead of 2003, I regret 9/11 didn't happen sooner and I regret a 4th plane didn't hit get to hit a whitehouse and I regret a serbian crew didn't do it. So I have lots of regrets but I have to live with it and learn from it .

Fuck you and fuck your beliefs, you tool. You pretend you are somehow righteous and that your moral high horse is of the heaviest but in actual fact your nothing but a prick, condoning the loss of life and *wishing* it happened sooner. You sir, are the scum of the human race and you make me litrally ashamed to be apart ofit.

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Originally posted by Q5echo wow. thats so profound. i'm crying

I know, because you are the #1 war apologist on this board.

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Originally posted by Dervish You live in the continent of America, hence are American. I've asked before what did the west get out of the Balkans? Nothing it cost us alot. If you're not going to talk about the video why post it?

and we are all earthlings you know.

Americans and their followers didn't gain anything from the balkans but not for the lack of trying and they have always tried to obfuscate their real motives and intentions. Their prime motive was to adopt a muslim line to appeal to muslims worldwide by claiming to fight for them and saving them from genocide no less. For this end they employed an elaborate propaganda campaign in the US. In reality they were attacking for themselves and were setting ground for invasion of Iraq and their other enemies in the middle east . Other motives for american aggression in the balkans were breakdown of international order and domination of balkans,europe and middle east.

None of these have paid dividends though, muslims have been in war with america ever since ,the real breakdown of international order and almost complete irrelevance of UN has only served to isolate america

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Originally posted by erdega and we are all earthlings you know. Americans and their followers didn't gain anything from the balkans but not for the lack of trying and they have always tried to obfuscate their real motives and intentions. Their prime motive was to adopt a muslim line to appeal to muslims worldwide by claiming to fight for them and saving them from genocide no less. For this end they employed an elaborate propaganda campaign in the US. In reality they were attacking for themselves and were setting ground for invasion of Iraq and their other enemies in the middle east . Other motives for american aggression in the balkans were breakdown of international order and domination of balkans,europe and middle east. None of these have paid dividends though, muslims have been in war with america ever since ,the real breakdown of international order and almost complete irrelevance of UN has only served to isolate america

Yet America showed no signs of actually wanting to become involved in the Balkans, with Clinton on record saying this is a matter for the Europeans to sort out on their own. Unfortunately, the EU was incapable at the time of mounting an operation of the magnitude needed and the US reluctantly agreed to step in.

Then again in 1999, when Kosovans were faced with ethnic cleansing from Serbia, Russia vetoed UN Security Council action so the US (and others in the EU etc) took the decision to ignore the UN because of the ethnic cleansing that was going on in order to prevent a disaster from taking place.

I am one of America's greatest critics on here, but I will have nothing bad said about their involvement in the Balkans because it is absolutely commendable...

Serbia on the other hand...well their leaders are in the Hague on war crimes, just so you know who exactly were the evil bastards of that particular conflict

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Originally posted by Purple Nice vedio, nice people. thanks for posting.. I miss the sniper vedios of Americans getting killed.. but thanks!!

I just read of new release of Juba the baghdad sniper very soon, This sniper video came out last week
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dac_1191165373

and this is a shot down of an apache , also from last week

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Originally posted by erdega I just read of new release of Juba the baghdad sniper very soon, This sniper video came out last week http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dac_1191165373 and this is a shot down of an apache , also from last week

We humans should be ashamed of such things, not proud.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Yet America showed no signs of actually wanting to become involved in the Balkans, with Clinton on record saying this is a matter for the Europeans to sort out on their own. Unfortunately, the EU was incapable at the time of mounting an operation of the magnitude needed and the US reluctantly agreed to step in. Then again in 1999, when Kosovans were faced with ethnic cleansing from Serbia, Russia vetoed UN Security Council action so the US (and others in the EU etc) took the decision to ignore the UN because of the ethnic cleansing that was going on in order to prevent a disaster from taking place. I am one of America's greatest critics on here, but I will have nothing bad said about their involvement in the Balkans because it is absolutely commendable... Serbia on the other hand...well their leaders are in the Hague on war crimes, just so you know who exactly were the evil bastards of that particular conflict

you are just an anglo imerialist or wanna be perhaps ?

Either way, what you call "no sign" is actually from the start US agitating for war and then arming, transporting thousands of "afghan" veterans etc into bosnia. Later on, cia armed albanian terrorist gangs and even had them trained in cia camps in new jersey/new york. All of this was held up by american imperialists especially the hardcore zionist wing as proof that they are not biased against muslims , I mean for them it was ok to be an aggressive imperialistic , terrorist supporting , civilian bombing, war propagandizing etc, but being accused of anti muslim bias actually touched their nerve like no other especially in regards to middle east .

So ever since, they have been bending over backwards to prove they are not anti muslim , enacting "anti racist" laws that are very political nature all in the hopes of steering that muslim side or more preciselly jihadist/al qaida wing on the side of america and its zionist lobby. Let there be no doubt, no one is bothered by jihad or al qaida types when they accomplish some of their sinister aims but the only trouble and this is a great riddle is how jihadists turned their aim squareally at america and its allies. Americans, for their part would love nothing more than to return to the days of Afghanistan and Bosnia and perhaps some other when they were allies with the jihadists in hope of steering that violence for their own globalist purposes . But those days are done, western globalists have shown their true colors and jihadists are too powerful now and bent on destroying the one power they know . Having said that, imperial defeat in the balkans like in iraq is complete .

As for your petty shots about hague , well it just tells me it's a political puppet court with a complete bias and prerendered verdicts financed by US/UK governments for their imperial purposes. You are using to score some points for the lack of any arguments but you should know that this is the proof positive of totalitarian nature of imperialist regimes very much like any imperial power on 20th century