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Originally posted by sensorium I was watching a report earlier where several pictures of him captured were shown. I was looking for them but had no luck. He was tied up in one of the pictures, moments before his death according to the report. And indeed, he wasn't that charismatic and his dislike for other people, like black people or the Indians of Mexico, didn't help him win friends.

Yep...He was a scumbag. I think these are the pics you're looking for:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h...RER/61khvlf.gif
http://i23.tinypic.com/1zxo9ar.jpg

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Yep...He was a scumbag. I think these are the pics you're looking for: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h...RER/61khvlf.gif http://i23.tinypic.com/1zxo9ar.jpg

Not exactly, although the first picture looks interesting, it isn't what I was looking for. He was sitting down in one of the pictures with his hands tied up.

He is dead in the last pictures and dying, of laughter it seems, in the first picture. Never knew such thing happened.

They tickled him to death. You didn't know that? Get your history straight!

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I havent read that much about Che.

Yet you rush to cite him as a positive "communist" figure. Damn son, you must go through tons of toilet paper, always talking out of your ass (that's whenever your head does not occupy the enclave).

At first I tried to consider you seriously, on some level, now you just make me shake my head and laugh. Thanks for great comic relief in PDD - it's much needed round here.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium You know whats really sad? Che fought against capitalists (though he himself came from a rich Argentinian family, and he gave up that lifestyle to fight for poor people), but now, 40 years later, these same capitalists he fought against are making good money off his name, for example, with clothing products featuring his image, name, ideas, even on calendars. Very profitable.

Nice read on Wiki, ain't it? BTW, I know someone else who is just as radical, came from a wealthy family, gave that up to fight American Imperialists and may one day share Che's fate - e.g. his body propping up a piece of highway concrete somewhere.








If you guessed "Osama" give yourself a cookie.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium You know whats really sad? Che fought against capitalists (though he himself came from a rich Argentinian family, and he gave up that lifestyle to fight for poor people), but now, 40 years later, these same capitalists he fought against are making good money off his name, for example, with clothing products featuring his image, name, ideas, even on calendars. Very profitable.

Sad? That's exactly the reason why I do own a shirt with his face on it.

He's wearing headphones, though, and it's written "Disco Revolution" under his face

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Originally posted by emc^2 Nice read on Wiki, ain't it? BTW, I know someone else who is just as radical, came from a wealthy family, gave that up to fight American Imperialists and may one day share Che's fate - e.g. his body propping up a piece of highway concrete somewhere. If you guessed "Osama" give yourself a cookie.

OMFG classic!

I mean here in Miami,FL there is a different type of sentiment towards this revolutionary figure, Ernesto "Che" Guevara. From the majority of the residents here in Miami, mostly Cubans this man is labeled as an assassin when he ventured with the current dictator of Cuba during the Pro/Post revolution.

IMO Che was a man that turned to violence and the murdered of innocents for a flawed ideology that was popular at that time. Its true he aided groups that tried to toppled down govt that opressed its people, but then as we all know it backfired and when these groups took controll they were worse than their predecessor.
I believe el Che did want a true change in Latin America and all over the world, but took harsh methods to get his message clear.

I sometimes ask myself, would el "Che" be happy if he saw how Cuba turned out to be? From a history point of view, el Che was an assassin, aided groups that fought for a disguised purpose, and at the end of his life everyone turned against el Che, even the people he fought so hard to "defend"

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Originally posted by Lira Sad? That's exactly the reason why I do own a shirt with his face on it. He's wearing headphones, though, and it's written "Disco Revolution" under his face

BWHAHAHAHA!!!

I think I've seen that one around here too...

He must be rolling in his grave....oh well

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Originally posted by emc^2 Nice read on Wiki, ain't it? BTW, I know someone else who is just as radical, came from a wealthy family, gave that up to fight American Imperialists and may one day share Che's fate - e.g. his body propping up a piece of highway concrete somewhere. If you guessed "Osama" give yourself a cookie.

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Originally posted by emc^2 Yet you rush to cite him as a positive "communist" figure. Damn son, you must go through tons of toilet paper, always talking out of your ass (that's whenever your head does not occupy the enclave). At first I tried to consider you seriously, on some level, now you just make me shake my head and laugh. Thanks for great comic relief in PDD - it's much needed round here.

Hah, you're the clown - you cant even use the online translator properly when trying to speak Russian (I assume you're not Russian by nationality, otherwise you're an embarassment). I didnt read about Che on Wiki, by the way .... ahhh, fuck, why am I explaining myself to a total tool? You havent got a single fact right about me, as I mentioned before with multiple corrections. I already mentioned that I didnt know much about Che, but I've HEARD things about him - but later on the thread, in reply to PKC, in case you didnt notice (you're pretty dam good at missing details), I admitted that Che was just like any other violent communist. Get a new pair of glasses, bud, I can give you some recommendations and maybe even discounts!

BTW, imperialists need Osama to be alive (and he will be alive for quite some time) to continue their "war on terrorism" in some other countries. Who knows, Osama might coincidentally turn up in Iran next ...

I should probably disregard your future posts in relation to me from now on if you continue your agressive rhetoric, because first of all, you dont know whats even going on and are unable to read in complete sentences. Instead of fueling your desire for some confrontation and personal satisfaction, I'll give you a break since it seems you're more eager to pick a fight than to discuss issues. I am an adult now, not a kid, sorry - not a fair match!

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Originally posted by Magnetonium ([in reply to links on many killings by Che) Great source (*cough*), but I see your point. I havent read that much about Che. Point taken though. I still find it very fascinating at how he managed to operate in revolutionary activities for such a long time before finally being caught. He inspired many people, though probably for all the bad reasons ... though ruthless, he did help poor people, or that not true either?

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