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Originally posted by stan229 i just ordered it

i'm sooo sorry... so what was the deciding factor? if you were looking for a program stable enough to use in a club; with consistent pinpoint response, i'm afraid you made the wrong choice. if you were looking to save a couple-hundred bills, you made the right choice.

I'm not a big fan of M-Audio products, but I've been using torq for about lil less than a year now, because it's the cheaper alternative to Serato.

I have to say I'm very satisfied with the purchase. It never caused any problems.. Why wouldn't it be suitable for club use?



Anyways, back to the subject.

I use Vinyls, CD's, Vinyl/CD's on Torq... I would have to say the feel of a vinyl is so much better to mix on though. Not that CD's suck.. Maybe i prefer the vinyls more, because I first learned to mix on them. Although collecting vinyls cost me alot of money, each new track that I bought meant so much more to me than buying a CD or simply downloading mp3's. Kinda hard to explain, but anyways, they both have their goods and bads. It would be great to see more DJ's using vinyls in clubs. I rarely see any these days..

I would not advise playing all records anymore to anyone. I really respect it, but I have so much more music on CD and it is very easy to take with me both to gigs and also just for everyday listening. I don´t know of an ipod for 12" yet, and ripping is a pain in the ass.

But, I still buy records. Generally only records that are not released digitally, or vintage records. Occasionally though I will buy a record because I like it a lot and want to have a physical copy of it - a "record" of someone´s musical expression in the truest sense.

I have never understood the point of CDJs. Why not just get a laptop with an external soundcard and a MIDI controller to replace the jog wheels?

Yeah its kind of like buying a Mac then going WTF? My Apple crazed friend was completely full of shit.

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My experience learning to play music on vinyl was invaluable but it's pretty much obselete these days, save a relatively small amount of labels.


This current generation of DJs just doesn't understand vinyl the same way.

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Originally posted by Watts I have never understood the point of CDJs. Why not just get a laptop with an external soundcard and a MIDI controller to replace the jog wheels?

Because you don't have any first hand experience with any of those products you mentioned.

for some reason I learned all my vinyl tracks a lot better than my digital ones. I can barely remember 2 of the 11 - 15 I buy a week. but with vinyl, I'd buy a bunch of releases and have em all memorized.



but yea its all personal preference. im stickin with cd's just because they are lighter, and cheaper as I never buy full releases anymore.

With vinyl, there was always a much stronger feeling of possession over your tracks. You knew that when you bought your copy of a record, you were now in possession of one of possibly only 1,000 copies floating around all over the world. With each digital download, you never know how many other people are in possession of that same track. Maybe only 1,000. Maybe 100,000.

Also, the sense of investment and the accompanying familiarity is gone with digital downloads. When each record costs $10 and you know you'll have to wait a few days for it to arrive in the mail, every purchase must be stewed over and consciously acted upon. Now, with tracks only costing about $2 and arriving instantly, we can buy tracks far more impulsively. I used to only buy about 30 records a month back when I was into vinyl 100%, but I knew and loved each of those records inside and out. Now, I sometimes buy about 30 tracks a week, and there are always tracks I immediately regret spending any money on.

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Originally posted by discobiscuit i'm sooo sorry... so what was the deciding factor? if you were looking for a program stable enough to use in a club; with consistent pinpoint response, i'm afraid you made the wrong choice. if you were looking to save a couple-hundred bills, you made the right choice.

You're full of hot air dude.

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Originally posted by spolitta Because you don't have any first hand experience with any of those products you mentioned.

What makes you think that? I've used vinyl, CDJs as well as full digital computer-based setups. I agree with him. If your going digital, you might as well just use a PC.

I started with 1200's, which I still own and use from time to time, but i mostly use SSL with CDJ's. All my hundreds if not thousands of records are just sitting there collecting dust. But I'll tell you what, from time to time, I like to shop around for rare hard to find old school techno records. Just two weeks ago, I finally found the one old school TETRIS track from 1991!!! Man, that made me so happy.

Vinyl is awesome, but there's just too many problems with the decks and I don't have time to troubleshoot week after week. And by this I mean, RCA's going bad, feedback, broken needles, bad connectors, etc. I like the feel of vinyl, but i prefer the convenience of CDJs. I just convinced my two out of my 3 residencies to install Serato, so it makes it even easier on me. Just show up with my laptop. One of them is even installing a computer, so all I have to do is show up with my portable drive.