I didnt mean ascension through enlightenment, I was using the term more generally. More as in, comfortable with my existance and therefore more objective.

Again, trying in vain to change the world is pointless. Especially when the means of acheiving such a goal is attempting to highlight conspiricies that may/may not exist.

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Originally posted by The Arbiter I didnt mean ascension through enlightenment, I was using the term more generally. More as in, comfortable with my existance and therefore more objective. Again, trying in vain to change the world is pointless. Especially when the means of acheiving such a goal is attempting to highlight conspiricies that may/may not exist.

Enlightenment is gained through knowledge, not through the blindered, unthinking, unquestioning idiocy that your kind so wholly seems to embrace.

I'm comfortable and happy with my existence but I also know (considering the way that things are moving) that the truth that I'm speaking to power right now will probably only be tolerated for a very limited amount of time unless either Ron Paul gets elected or some other miracle occurs.

It's hardly in vain. A lot of people have already woken up and a lot more are waking up everyday. I'm sorry that you're so ensnared in those lower vibrating frequencies that you couldn't join us.

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Originally posted by The Arbiter I didnt mean ascension through enlightenment, I was using the term more generally. More as in, comfortable with my existance and therefore more objective. Again, trying in vain to change the world is pointless. Especially when the means of acheiving such a goal is attempting to highlight conspiricies that may/may not exist.

To you ignorance might be bliss but to me it equates to a world full of misery.

You can't fight a goverment with your current approach, its aggressive and about as tactical as a doomesday weapon. Telling the population that their goverment is slowly taking away all their rightsisnt going to work. People will always believe their leader over you. They will always believe that glowing box in their living rooms over you. Your only hope is getting elected yourselves, or someone with similar beliefs. I agree that human rights isnt on the agenda, wether its over here in Europe or over their in America and it should be. But I know preaching about it on the net isnt going to change that fact mate, ignorant or not.

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Originally posted by The Arbiter You can't fight a goverment with your current approach, its aggressive and about as tactical as a doomesday weapon. Telling the population that their goverment is slowly taking away all their rightsisnt going to work. People will always believe their leader over you. They will always believe that glowing box in their living rooms over you. Your only hope is getting elected yourselves, or someone with similar beliefs. I agree that human rights isnt on the agenda, wether its over here in Europe or over their in America and it should be. But I know preaching about it on the net isnt going to change that fact mate, ignorant or not.

Says you and I'm sure many other otherwise uninsightful, uninteresting and uninspiring, self-absorbed internet message board posters.

As amazing as this might sound to you, a lot of other people seem to think much differently.

Anyway, I'm not fighting the government per se. I'm fighting only the corrupt excesses of government and first and foremost, those who seek to impose their will upon the rest of mankind (in a nefarious way.)

Well They're wrong unfortunatley. They can go away, think they've changed all they want but it doesnt make it true. The internet has been crying out in outrage ever since Bush started taking rights away and it hasnt even caused a dent. Im not claiming that I am inspired or even interesting and that shouldnt be the reason you make posts. Y You do it to try to change the world but the problem is this assumption that you can do it by posting on message boards then that we will all feel the need to conform to your views and ideals is completely problematic. The internet gets your point across to other people, but not were it matters and it certainly doesnt help enforce your views on any kindof authority. There is only two ways to defeat a goverment; over-throwing them (Of which is suicide against American military.) or hoping they get voted out.

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Originally posted by The Arbiter Well They're wrong unfortunatley. They can go away, think they've changed all they want but it doesnt make it true. The internet has been crying out in outrage ever since Bush started taking rights away and it hasnt even caused a dent. Im not claiming that I am inspired or even interesting and that shouldnt be the reason you make posts. Y You do it to try to change the world but the problem is this assumption that you can do it by posting on message boards then that we will all feel the need to conform to your views and ideals is completely problematic. The internet gets your point across to other people, but not were it matters and it certainly doesnt help enforce your views on any kindof authority. There is only two ways to defeat a goverment; over-throwing them (Of which is suicide against American military.) or hoping they get voted out.

It doesn't really matter what you think. Your opinion is just that. I have to try to make a positive difference in whatever way that I can by using whatever tools that I have at my disposal mainly because I feel as though it's the right thing to do as well as one of my duties as a human being.

I'd rather be a tiger for a day (even if just a paper one) than a sheep for an entire lifetime.

I'm not asking anyone to conform to anything. I'm simply making a conscientious appeal to whatever intelligent, rational, humanitarian thought that this world might still have left. That seems to be few and far between these days but I still need to try.

Your not a tiger. Your a goat. Herded but more stubbourn than the rest of us. Truth is your exactly the same as us, civilians with a different viewpoint and if you really and I mean really wanted to make a difference you'd do better than rant on a message board. Because thats litrally all your doing mate, ranting.

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Originally posted by The Arbiter Your not a tiger. Your a goat. Herded but more stubbourn than the rest of us. Truth is your exactly the same as us, civilians with a different viewpoint and if you really and I mean really wanted to make a difference you'd do better than rant on a message board. Because thats litrally all your doing mate, ranting.

Assume much? How do you know what I'm doing aside from what you see here?

BTW - it's you're not your.

it really bugs me when people make that mistake

Go on then tell me what your doing outside the forum.

Your is just much easier to type. Sorry, wont be correcting it.

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Originally posted by The Arbiter Go on then tell me what your doing outside the forum. Your is just much easier to type. Sorry, wont be correcting it.

How come it's now all about me? lol

Is this really what this board has been reduced to? Talking about what Trancer-X is doing for the world today? If that's the only thing that you can dwell on after all that we've discussed here then I really do feel sorry you.

Yeah, it's probably a lot easier to justify laziness than it is to change such habits. Such inclinations definitely won't lead you towards personal growth, though.