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MarkT
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quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
I don't actually agree with the 1% tax cut to the GST.. Only because the tax cut mostly benefits the well off. Those who can buy big ticket items benefit the most.

I would suggest not reducing the tax and actually pumping it into cities.. They need it more then the $20 some guy saves off his new Plasma screen TV with a reduced GST.

*shrug just my opinion.


agree 100%!

and there's a simple way to circumvent the fact that the feds don't directly give money to municipalities.

the feds can take any amount they wish and earmark it for something that the city already pays for...like public transit. Contribute more and let the city contribute less...and then the city can shift that money to other services.

simple.

As for Dion not forcing an election...he really had no choice. Harper is in the position of strength in that the people don't want an election and neither do the Liberals. He also knows that he wouldn't get a majority, but quite likely would win another minority, so there's aero risk to acting like a cock and governing as if he DID have a majority (i.e. this is what I'm going to do...if you don't like it, force an election).

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Yohan
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I believe there are going to be income tax break and other tax break on top of GST reduction according to Flaherty


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not true. i say "ugh"
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lol colour me retarded

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quote:
Originally posted by cenik
I want a federal election.

i don't...Liberals in not so good position right now

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quote:
Originally posted by malek
p.s. about income taxes being equal among everyone, how do you explain that the rich ones are paying over half of all income taxes while being a minority?? Its a trick question I know but saying that everyone should be equal is a very slippery slope that you don't to embarck on.



Of course the Rich pay half the income taxes since they receive more then half of the income.

I'm just talking as a direct proportion of income. The rich pay far less taxes then the poor or middle class wage earners. There are lots of legal ways that allows this that wage earners cannot take advantage of.


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i don't...Liberals in not so good position right now

good. i hope it stays that way.

i'd have given martin a chance but cretin, dion? no way

they make this centrist cry


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Originally posted by chinamon
not true. i say "ugh"
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lol colour me retarded

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malek
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quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
Of course the Rich pay half the income taxes since they receive more then half of the income.

I'm just talking as a direct proportion of income. The rich pay far less taxes then the poor or middle class wage earners. There are lots of legal ways that allows this that wage earners cannot take advantage of.


Its impossible.

The poor barely pay any taxes, and if they do, they recieve handouts (children, gst, etc) do you want them to start paying to be equal to the middle and high class?


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good. i hope it stays that way.

i'd have given martin a chance but cretin, dion? no way

they make this centrist cry

i know this sounds mean since i myself have a little bit of an accent but for some reason Dion's accent bothers me at times lol...soo heavy

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i know this sounds mean since i myself have a little bit of an accent but for some reason Dion's accent bothers me at times lol...soo heavy

lol. I thought cretin was the worst. I dunno how he could scrunch up his face to make the sounds he make


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not true. i say "ugh"
but i am a tranny.
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lol colour me retarded

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lol. I thought cretin was the worst. I dunno how he could scrunch up his face to make the sounds he make

hahaha...for me Dion's accent still tops Chrétien's

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hahaha...for me Dion's accent still tops Chrétien's



*sigh*


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MarkT
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quote:
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I believe there are going to be income tax break and other tax break on top of GST reduction according to Flaherty


yeah...I'm curious how it's deemed responsbile to ditch this revenue. income tax cuts are one thing...but the 1% GST cut is fucking stupid, IMHO. Sure a bit of extra spending might result, but I think it's better to keep that revenue flowing into the gov't.

The average Canadian, unless they're buying a new house, isn't going to benefit much for a 1% GST reduction. Even new homes are often already subject to a partial GST rebate.

Just do the math. If you spend $50,000 (AND it was all on GST taxable items, btw), that's only $500 in tax savings!

So how many of you have spent anything close to that this past year, nevemind on GST taxable items? Keep in mind that residental rent and mortgage payments aren't subject to GST, and that's the major annual expenditure for most people, I'll wager. Much of your groceries aren't GST taxable too, so factor that out as well.

Can someone explain to me how this is economically more beneficial to the country vs. leaving the GST as is? Otherwise, I see it as a vote grab.

As individuals, it means little to nothing to most of us...but as a whole, that's a shitload of money that could benefit municipalities across the country, for example. Proportionally distribute that 1% across the country's cities and suddenly Toronto doesn't have a deficit, right?

KEEP THE FUCKING 1% OF GST AND SPEND IT ON WORTHWHILE PROJECTS!!!

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I wonder how many people would scream murder if the Conservatives didn't keep one of their election promises


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lol colour me retarded

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