Correction: it appears that its not a large scale invasion yet, just special forces of Turkish army involved, backed by tanks, artillery and F-16's. Further updates coming later.

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BBC is now reporting this story

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by Krypton If the US can go on unilateral military adventures, so can Turkey...

I'm inclined to agree. Plus Turkey have been deliberately attacked by the PKK militants, so I'm not exactly sure why anyone would really oppose their actions. I realize the situation is much more complicated, but there is an undeniable tone of hypocrisy by any war supporter opposing Turkey not defending itself via attacking across the border.

And I find this a wee bit strange as well:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/st...940-663,00.html

So now Bush is offering to bomb the Kurds in order to stave off a Turkish invasion.

This is one serious fucked up war.

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From what I seen on Turkish TV, they are waiting till 2nd for the full invasion.

Around 100,000 Turkish forces backed by tanks and attack helicopters, have been deployed. Turkey's Prime Minister is warning the United States to act swiftly after Washington asked for a few days before any response to the killing of more than a dozen Turkish s More..oldiers by guerrillas from the outlawed Kurdish Workers' Party. Turkey's military says troops responded with a counter-offensive, killing at least 23 Kurdish rebels in sou More..theastern Turkey. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has recalled security officials to Ankara for crisis talks. The fighting took place in Sirnak province, bordering Iraq, the Anatolia news agency reported, citing the army.The Kurds attacked with a heavy mix of weapons including Sniper Rifles bombs/grenades and heavy machine guns. The regional government in Sirak reported earlier Sunday that a PKK rebel had been killed while fighting the army in the Mount Cudi area. On Saturday, the army announced that it has created 27 new temporary security zones, reinforcing the already existing plan to deter rebel movement in the Sirnak, Siirt and Hakkari provinces, all close to the border with Iraq. Ankara estimates that there are thousands of PKK rebels who are supported or tolerated by Iraqi Kurds. Twelve people were killed at the end of September after a minibus was machine-gunned in Sirnak province, the PKK's bloodiest attack in Turkey in recent years. The PKK, listed as a terrorist group by Turkey and much of the international community, has waged a bloody campaign for self-rule in Turkey's mainly Kurdish east and southeast since 1984. The conflict has claimed more than 37,000 lives.









More pics of the operation.

Good picks. You've made me choose to cancel my vacation to Kurdist.. I mean northern Iraq.

Opposition to these strikes is completely justified. I oppose them in the same way I opposed the Israeli attack on Lebanon.

any news clips of this?

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Those are some nice pics, among some other Turkish military equipment movements I saw on Russian TV ;-) they have a pretty dam good army thats for sure, modern and well equipped. Kurds definitely dont stand a shot. I think Kurds should concentrate more on liberating themselves in Iraq first, and worry about Turkey later. As much as I think that Kurds were cheated out of their own country after WW2, their current methods of resistance vs. powerful Turkey are hopeless and damaging to themselves. Though at the same time I am well aware of the brutality of the regime in Ankara. They refuse to give any grants, autonomy or give in to any demands of PKK. Even worse, they ignore all of PKK's announcements and pleas (like the cease fire one). Turkish military retribution is well known as well, they dont take guerilla attacks lightly - just look at this invasion and its reasons.

Turkey has big issues with ethnic minorities as well, no wonder why they have had some prolific hate crimes over the recent years.

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Originally posted by nchs09 any news clips of this?

Turkish choppers, F-16s,artillery batteries strike pkk camps in North of Iraq since 3 days.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=04c_1193273604

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e5b_1193234077

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FREE KURDISTAN!

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Originally posted by atbell Good picks. You've made me choose to cancel my vacation to Kurdist.. I mean northern Iraq. Opposition to these strikes is completely justified. I oppose them in the same way I opposed the Israeli attack on Lebanon.

I oppose them to, but what moral standing does America have to ask Turkey not to go and invade? None...

Our standing in the world, our position as the backbone of reason in this world, is in Bush's garbage can...

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