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phantom limb
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Northeast

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Hey,

I'm using a Casio keyboard and hooking it up with MIDIman to the USB port on my computer. I had a similar issue with my computer. Give my advice a shot, it might just work. Hopefully, you still have the driver CD available.

1. Install the drivers from the CD that came with the cables; make sure your DAW is not open yet (Leave the driver CD inside the CD drive of your computer no matter what).

2. Just restart your computer, to make sure everything is working well.

3. With the driver CD for the cable still in your computer, plug in the USB end of the cable and make sure the keyboard is on while you're doing this.

4. Open your DAW and go to your preferences panel and see if it is recognizing it as a MIDI device.

5. Make sure in the meantime that your keyboard settings are set so MIDI signals go out from the keyboard and isn't set to a receiving state (Double-check the manufacturer's manual).

6. If all goes well, whenever you want to use the MIDI-to-USB cable, you have to have the drivers CD in the computer's CD drive. Sometimes, things get screwy--you just have to keep trying.

Hope this helps!


On an additional note, if everything works out, there will always be a latency issue that may throw you off, when you are trying to record. Best bet, is to mute the track you are recording and just listen to the not-so-great quality samples on your keyboard to keep things in time. Then, you can just adjust your MIDI on your DAW with the step function on FL Studio. Post any problems you have in the future-- I'll try to help.

Old Post Oct-26-2007 20:56  United States
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Leniu
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Staten Island, US

phantom limb, I cant power up the keyboard up without plugging it into the USB port, I dont have the AC adaptor.
And... Whats DAW? Am I missing something?

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phantom limb
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Northeast

quote:
Originally posted by Leniu
phantom limb, I cant power up the keyboard up without plugging it into the USB port, I dont have the AC adaptor.
And... Whats DAW? Am I missing something?


Well, this changes things. Since, I don't have much experience with this sort of keyboard set-up, this may prove to be slightly out of my league.

Try checking M-Audio's website for support and updated drivers. Here's the link: http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.contact

Additionally, the manual would be useful to refer to as well. http://www.m-audio.com/images/globa...ries_Manual.pdf

By the way, DAW= Digital Audio Workstation. In your case, this is FL Studio. It allows you to work with MIDI and audio arrangement/management in a sequencer and has a mixer set-up for controlling individual instruments/effects.

Old Post Oct-28-2007 01:06  United States
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Leniu
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i got the right drivers, i read the support, i even fixed a few tihngs that couldve possibly been making it not work, i guess its just broken, in the meantime im just hoping that maybe i run into someone who had the same problem and there IS a solution.

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Leniu
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i got the copmuter to recognize the keyboard! i connected the 5-pin cable from "usb midi out" to "keyboard midi out" (both on the keyboard...) and now hwne i plug in the USB cable, the copmuter detects it. The only problem is windows still refuses to install the drivers, and wont sign it as anything but an "unknown usb device". I cant install the drivers manually beacuse the installer comes as an .exe file, thus i dont have the actual driver files... Unless someone with the same keybaord (Radium 49) out there can send me the actual driver files, (esp. the .inf file), then i can try to manually force windows to recognize it... Anyone?

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wrzonance
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Lol! You truly are a noob if you don't know what a DAW is. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio_workstation ) But since we've all been noobs. I'm here to help you

I own a Radium 49 and it works perfectly on my machine both by being bus powered (powered by being connected to usb) and when being powered from an external AC source (a AC/DC adapter).

To avoid any problems with USB bus surges (devices trying to suck too much juice from you USB ports) I would go and get a power adapter for your Radium 49 as soon as possible.

The kind of power adaptor you need is: 9V DC 500mA. And the polarity needs to be: (+) inside of plug, (-) outside of plug.

I would bring your keyboard down to your local radio-shack and play with the various adapters because you'll need both the right type of adapter above, AND you'll need the correct plug-size.

Okay. So yea, get a power adapter and make sure when you plug-in the adapter power on the Radium 49 by making sure the switch is in the "DC 9V/BATTERY" position.

As for drivers? It is extremely strange you are having so many problems. I'd make sure Windows is fully up-to-date (Service Pack 2, etc). And then I would do this to manually install the drivers.

Go Start -> Run (or if you're 1337, press Windows Key + R)
Type in "devmgmt.msc"
This will bring up the device manager. If your radium is installed correctly under "Sound, video and game controllers" there should be an entry called "M-Audio USB Keystation." If not, then you'll find it under unknown devices.

My recommendation before you continue is to uninstall all traces of the Radium 49 driver to make SURE that there won't be any issues ahead. That means using Add/Remove programs to uninstall the software, and that means in device manger, right-click and uninstall the device etc.
Here is a link to the zip file with the Radium 49 drivers

http://archives.djfreaq.com/archives/RADIUM49.zip

Now, unzip all that shit into a directory. Then right click on that unknown device and click update driver. "Install from a list or specific location", then "Don't search. I will choose the driver to install", then "Have Disk...", then "Browse..."

Point it to the folder with the USBKS1X1.INF file in it and go from there.

If this still isn't working then most likely ur Radium 49 is bonkers and you should probably go out and buy a MIDI interface and rig it up the old-school way, or buy a better MIDI controller (like a Remote SL).

Also, I am astonished that looping the MIDI cables into both of the Radium 49's output ports did anything at all. I'm pretty sure that is a coincidence, since BOTH of those 5-pin MIDI ports are OUTPUTS!

I hope this works for you.

----Adam


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Leniu
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Staten Island, US

Thank you very much Adam! The zip file is just what I needed, unfortunately it didn't help, I guess the controller is broken. I did everything I could now its time to shop for a different one .

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