Deadmau5 has some great tracks!

Last edited by chupa169 on Oct-25-2007 at 14:31

I love his shit.....get his ass here...ass or not

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Originally posted by Jason Jollins He's a great example of what the scene is today. A great dj can put out 5000 amazing dj mixes in one month and no one will know that dj exists. A great producer can put out a few great tracks in a short period of time (or just one great track in his life) and be known throughout the world. which of course leads to this said producer touring around every corner of the world as a dj. Sure, the scene has been like this for years, but even more so now. And forget it, now that Ableton is around, producers with absolutely no dj'ing talent can just make a premixed dj set in ableton live, show up to a gig, plug in there laptop, press play, and jump around like they are actually doing something. There's no stopping it, death to the dj -

couldnt agree more...ive been saying for a while now...it was all just a matter of time til we saw exactly what jason is talking about. lol i saw a few of those guys with laptops jumping around like crazy in baltimore at Virgin Festival this year haha

but anyways, deadmau5 is awesome and i really like his sound and the way he puts together his productions. i made it a point to look for his new stuff every time i look for some new tracks to pick up. would LOVE to see him.

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Last edited by DigitalReason7 on Oct-25-2007 at 12:47

well now they need to learn to dance behind the DJ booth.....

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Originally posted by Jason Jollins He's a great example of what the scene is today. A great dj can put out 5000 amazing dj mixes in one month and no one will know that dj exists. A great producer can put out a few great tracks in a short period of time (or just one great track in his life) and be known throughout the world. which of course leads to this said producer touring around every corner of the world as a dj. Sure, the scene has been like this for years, but even more so now. And forget it, now that Ableton is around, producers with absolutely no dj'ing talent can just make a premixed dj set in ableton live, show up to a gig, plug in there laptop, press play, and jump around like they are actually doing something. There's no stopping it, death to the dj -

The Words Of Jason The Destroyer.

I've heard a lot of his tracks. Some of them (not many like 2-3) sound too similar to me in respect to using the same kicks, drums, and basslines. Besides that I can't complain. Quality stuff

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Originally posted by DJ Eco He's a good producer, don't think he's mindblowing, uses the same sounds and techniques, but still a good producer... What really counts is what he's going to do in 6 months from now, what new sounds he comes up with

true, there's no doubt about that, his productions are all very similar sounding and non-trance lovers would probably all think theyre the same song. his sound is good though, and like many mentioned, they transition nicely into both house and trance sets etc. we need more of those!

although, on a different note, I personally prefer when producers stick to the same style or at least don't stray too far from their old sound. recently 2 of my fav producers have drastically changed their style (max graham, perry oneil), and I just can't get into their new productions at all

eco, sounds like you play good stuff, I'll be coming to watch you spin sometime in the city. after seeing big mike play, I realized I should be checking out some local talent too

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Originally posted by acetate212 eco, sounds like you play good stuff, I'll be coming to watch you spin sometime in the city. after seeing big mike play, I realized I should be checking out some local talent too

another convert!

eco is def one of the better locals! and a sick producer.

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Originally posted by Jason Jollins He's a great example of what the scene is today. A great dj can put out 5000 amazing dj mixes in one month and no one will know that dj exists. A great producer can put out a few great tracks in a short period of time (or just one great track in his life) and be known throughout the world. which of course leads to this said producer touring around every corner of the world as a dj. Sure, the scene has been like this for years, but even more so now. And forget it, now that Ableton is around, producers with absolutely no dj'ing talent can just make a premixed dj set in ableton live, show up to a gig, plug in there laptop, press play, and jump around like they are actually doing something. There's no stopping it, death to the dj -

I completely disagree. Just because a person is good at beatmatching, sampling, looping, etc doesnt mean he/she is a great dj. Don't blame ableton for the demise of the dj. It was just as easy before ableton to play a recorded CD and pretend to mix.

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Originally posted by jashic I completely disagree. Just because a person is good at beatmatching, sampling, looping, etc doesnt mean he/she is a great dj. Don't blame ableton for the demise of the dj. It was just as easy before ableton to play a recorded CD and pretend to mix.

Ok but you do agree that it's much easier for a great producer to get known on a world-wide level (which can basically happen over night) than for great dj to get known right?

And once known on a global level and once there is hype and buzz out there, it's very easy for a great producer to start touring the world as a DJ right?

Even if the producer has never even dj'd before?

Now if you were this producer and were being offered $10,000 - $15,000 a gig to dj because of your great production work but didn't know how to dj, what would you do?




I didn't say that Ableton was the sole factor for the demise of the dj. But it is a contributing factor to an increase in producers now touring as dj's, without question.

Sure, a dj before Ableton could just throw a cd in and pretend they were dj'ing. However, I don't ever recall that happening.

And it would be a lot more obvious if a person was just playing a CD while pretending to be dj'ing with Vinyl vs. a person who is playing a premixed set in Ableton.

Remember, before cd's there was Vinyl, and before the big digital takeover where dj's were using cd's, Ableton was already out on the market.



With that said... Before Ableton live came out, producers would get known through there productions but many of them would remain in the studio producing music rather than touring the world as a dj.

The reason for this was because they were professional producers and aside from just playing tracks, they didn't have the experience or skills to be a professional Dj.

Now with programs like Ableton live, you see a lot of great producers who have never toured as dj's before now touring.

As a dj myself, I am limited to naming names and I won't. But I can name several producers who I have witnessed playing premixed sets in Ableton in a live club setting. I know the program inside and out and I know how it works.

And I find it very discouraging when an artist shows up to a show and is jumping around pretending they are doing something when they are in fact just playing a pre-mixed set in ableton live. Everyone is being cheated in my opinion. It's equivalent to a singer who lip-syncs at a concert.

But I'm not against Ableton at all and certainly not all producers / Dj's use Ableton to make premixed sets.

When used right (such as in the case with Sasha), Ableton is an excellent tool for dj'ing, as well as an excellent tool for production.

And looking to the future, and without going more in depth on how the program ableton works, laptop dj'ing might be just what is needed to create the perfect fusion of Dj/Producer.




And for the record, I gave a lot of props to Deadmau5 in this thread and have fully supported him and his work. I in no way brought up the Ableton issue in regards to Deadmau5.

He is an extremely talented producer and I love and play his productions. And when he does come around these parts I'd love to catch one of his dj sets. He is an inspiration.

However, I was using him as an example in regards to how easy it is for a great producer to become known on a global level vs. how difficult it is for a great dj to become known on a global level.

And that is the reality of the scene, past / present & future.




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