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xtr3m
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Vancouver

You might get the best speakers out there but it may sound like total crap due to echo. Gyms are notorious for that. Maybe you should work on that first.

Will putting a speaker into each corner help? Making walls absorb sound better?

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CReddick
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles (Burbank), CA

Not to be a total buzzkill here... but without the right about of capitol $, this whole idea is going to yield a really lame result.

Kids know what a club is supposed to look / sound like... without a large decent sound system to at least get you started, I can't say I'd expect much of a result.


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Storyteller
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But it sure beats the hell out of having nothing at all...


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MERiDiAN5i2
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quote:
Originally posted by CReddick
Not to be a total buzzkill here... but without the right about of capitol $


8 grand is quite a bit of cash, especially if one is creative in how they spend it. The goal appears to be an on-campus chill/dance area for the students not a competitor to gatecrasher

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Shini
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia

About that echo...get some second hand carpet for the walls and ceiling to help that, it’s what they use at cinemas and they are huge high ceilings with no noticeable echo.

Wait do they use some kind of sound absorbing underlay as well?

As for the 8 grand being a lot of money I agree, its more than I can drop on a setup anytime soon but you will need to budget very carefully if you intend on making the distance, if you need more is there any chance of holding a party and using the cover charge for this project? It wouldn't have to be a big charge and if your collage is a boring as you say then there should be heaps of people wanting to come and support making it more fun.

anyway...just some ideas...


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nefardec
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you can turn a fucking shack into a club for free with friends and good taste in music


8 grand will get you a long way. i wish i had a budget for that kind of thing where i go to school

well actually not



best to keep the school out of the scene

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Storyteller
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quote:
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Wait do they use some kind of sound absorbing underlay as well?



Yes, to grab most of the bass you would need about ~40cm thick layer of rockwool to reduce the reflections. Carpets will only do for higher frequencies.

There are more tricks which require the same ammount of space but less rockwool but I'm not too keen on elaborating.


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Stasis
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: New England

I'm a graduate of WPI in Massachusetts, and for 4 years I worked on establishing a "club" on campus to compete with the weekly frat parties which formed the basis of the campus social scene.

I'm fairly bitter about the whole undertaking. I think everyone needs to get some perspective before making decisions on something like this. The reality is...electronic music is still very much a niche genre in most places around the country, and unless your campus is very unique, there are probably not enough electronic music fans to support a club dedicated to it. That's the first and hardest fact that I had to face. Even a major city like Boston has a hard time filling a half-court sized dance floor with electronic music fans on a regular basis. So...expect to face enormous pressure to regularly play Top40 and hip-hop. If you're not ready for that, I'd get out of the situation fast or prepare to become very frustrated, very fast.

Secondly, dance floors generally need to be a lot smaller than people think (in my opinion). So while half a basketball court may seem like a small size at first, I'd suspect that it would actually be far too big to regularly hold a club night on. When people think of dances, they think of gigantic "one-of" events, like Proms, Fall Balls, Halloween dances, etc--events that draw out a large number of people because of the occasion and do actually have the power to fill a whole basketball court. However, a semi-regular club night is not such an event, and I think you will find it far harder to fill a dance floor that size on a weekly or monthly basis. When people feel exposed on a dance floor (because there's not enough people dancing around them), they're less likely to relax and enjoy themselves. So I'd recommend finding a space thats actually fairly small and work yourself to larger spots if you find yourself needing them in the future.

I hope this helps!


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richg101
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Registered: Apr 2005
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get a cheap double cd player and mixer combo (old denon duals are cheap now- and dont skip with the bass!). and spend the rest on the decent sound system. if the party is good then the place will be busy and wont echo.

you will need at least 2,000 watts rms of amplifier power, two 18" bass bins and two cabinets housing 1x12"+compression driver.

then spend a couple of hundred on lighting and smoke machine.

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Location: Mountain View, CA

quote:
Originally posted by Stasis
I'm fairly bitter about the whole undertaking. I think everyone needs to get some perspective before making decisions on something like this. The reality is...electronic music is still very much a niche genre in most places around the country, and unless your campus is very unique, there are probably not enough electronic music fans to support a club dedicated to it. That's the first and hardest fact that I had to face. Even a major city like Boston has a hard time filling a half-court sized dance floor with electronic music fans on a regular basis. So...expect to face enormous pressure to regularly play Top40 and hip-hop. If you're not ready for that, I'd get out of the situation fast or prepare to become very frustrated, very fast.


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If you're seeing this as an opportunity to do some crazy EDM parties, don't get your hopes up too high because chances are you are going to be disappointed (like I've been on my campus). It can really make you jaded if you're pumping out some great music but the people at the party won't get out of their grind-music comfort zones and dance or are too narrow-minded to feel the music, and I speak from experience. But not to totally discourage you, I see opportunity in this - if you can create a themed EDM party that takes place once in a while, and heavily advertise it as such so that you get mostly and most of the EDM fans at your college to the party (and weed out the party-poopers), then it could turn out to be awesome.

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well actually not



best to keep the school out of the scene

If what you mean is it's best not to try to force the school into the scene, then I think you're right. The best parties happen with people who really feel the music, and those people usually find the parties and not the other way around. That said, you should still put the music out there and potentially you may make some EDM converts. The type of people who go out of their way to search for EDM parties are the type of people you want on the floor when you're playing, and not some douchebags who will ruin the vibe with their whining.


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djcami
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save money on soundproofing the place and just staple egg cartons all along the walls!

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xtr3m
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Location: Vancouver

quote:
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save money on soundproofing the place and just staple egg cartons all along the walls!


I guess he better start collecting them now!

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