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Paradox Lost
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Registered: Aug 2007
Location: San Francisco

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
What the hell? How can anyone think ASOT is diverse in any way?


Well, it isn't entirely as single-minded as the title would suggest. You'll occasionally find a healthy sprinkling of diversity (even if it hovers closer to Trance than not) at the beginning and perhaps the end of a typical ASOT episode, but those productions rarely get much airtime, though they wind up being the highlight of the show (I feel). Interestingly enough, it's when Armin isn't banging away with his signature Epic/Melodic Trance sound that he's far more interesting.

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MichaelBoogerd!
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quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Well, it isn't entirely as single-minded as the title would suggest. You'll occasionally find a healthy sprinkling of diversity (even if it hovers closer to Trance than not) at the beginning and perhaps the end of a typical ASOT episode, but those productions rarely get much airtime, though they wind up being the highlight of the show (I feel). Interestingly enough, it's when Armin isn't banging away with his signature Epic/Melodic Trance sound that he's far more interesting.


You do understand what diversity is right? Armin clearly thinks Dubfire and diversity are related. Pity him.


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Paradox Lost
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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
You do understand what diversity is right? Armin clearly thinks Dubfire and diversity are related. Pity him.


I didn't say that ASOT and Armin embody the abstraction of diversity, but I am saying that it isn't all one eye-rolling epic breakdown after another. However, his style certainly isn't as remarkably diverse as the interviewer would appear to believe.

Just because Armin dropped on Oxia's "Domino" doesn't make the show or his sets a showcase of diverse music, though I can't necessarily leverage a criticism against this. He really has no pretense of spinning anything other than Trance, and Epic Trance in particular. Although he occasionally branches out, his take on Trance is what his fans expect, and that's what he orients his efforts towards playing. Whether or not this is actually a good idea is a different matter.

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MichaelBoogerd!
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Perhaps he'd be better off playing something that interests him (reference to question 1 & 2), as usually, some kind of connection to the music you drop, helps make it a decent set.

Then again, ambient weird quirky DJs, don't end up at number 1 do they.


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Paradox Lost
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My favorite example of Armin (sort of) expanding his horizons is the second disc to ASOT 2004 (and to a lesser extent, the first disc to ASOT 2006). He seemed to be more focused upon selecting tracks that play into a larger sense of theme and atmosphere as opposed to simply compiling a list of popularly received Trance productions. Everything smoothly unfolds through different moods and sounds, and even though it wound up loosing its footing somewhat towards the latter half, everything up to and including the first 5 tracks are always a pleasure to listen to.


Although I don't recall many people raving about it, it's some of the best work he's ever done, and I wish he would take risks like that more often.

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id like to hear a set of his quirky ambient music sounds like?

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idoru
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quote:
Your live sets and ASOT radio show has grown so diverse, all the genres of EDM can be found from minimal to house, why has this evolution occurred?




His answer is the best, though...

quote:
I DJ for the crowd, not for myself, if it was for me the music would be real ambient, weird sounding. These track lists are for the crowd.


In other words, "I know what the masses want. They want pop crap. In order for me to stay popular, I must churn out pop crap."

quote:
I want to make sure the people are dancing and into the music, sometimes you have to play a track that’s different, so the crowd doesn’t get bored and the energy level stays high. DJs have to take risks sometimes and that can mean playing new stuff, or different types like a minimal sound or a Dubfire track. It’s all about the energy in the club; I have to work for them. I read reviews on forums and people’s comments on the track lists and I don’t feel just by reading that list you can get a feel for what is was like to be there or why I played that track at that moment. That’s what people have to understand, a DJ has to do what’s right at that moment, to make the people dance. I’m very open-minded about music. The trance people on the forums have to understand that trance is not a static phenomenon, it’s something that moves and changes, it’s very dynamic. When I look at Beatport and they classify a song as electro or minimal, who decided that, why can’t it be trance. If the song rocks a crowd, if it make’s the dance floor move, then that’s what counts, not what style it is.




And he pretty much contradicted himself there. "Why can't a track be called Trance? ... Labeling genres is shit, don't do it."

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Originally posted by RebeL9
the one who made the interview seems to be obsessed with the DJ Mag list.
this results in an overall really boring interview.


For once I agree with you.


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Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Just because Armin dropped on Oxia's "Domino" doesn't make the show or his sets a showcase of diverse music, though I can't necessarily leverage a criticism against this. He really has no pretense of spinning anything other than Trance, and Epic Trance in particular. Although he occasionally branches out, his take on Trance is what his fans expect, and that's what he orients his efforts towards playing. Whether or not this is actually a good idea is a different matter.


That's fine, I wish Armin luck in whatever he does and as long as the people like it, good for him. But for the love of god, don't call his show 'so diverse' and don't use words like 'minimal' and 'house' for that matter if you don't know how broad range of music do they represent (this was of course the interviewer's fault).


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Maybe the interviewer got those "genre names" straight from Armin's direct quote in DJ Mag. On the "picture" of the number 1 profile in giant letters (p.33 i think?) "I SPIN EVERYTHING, ELECTRO, MINIMAL AND HOUSE NOT JUST TRANCE"


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the interview wasn't that great.

lol @ all the arguing


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The hating in this thread is nauseating. You people would complain that armin's shit isnt brown enough for you, christ.

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