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Originally posted by julien2 If you are talking about trance, then you're pretty bound to encounter shitty vocals. Vocals are very edgy. If you don't push it enough, it seems forced and sounds false. Then its a buildup towards a very thin line, and if you cross that line, it sounds cheesy, commercial, generic and forced. In most cases, its either one. Too much or too little attention to vocals. The middle is hard to achieve... That is why many producers decide to use samples of voice, whether it is actual signing, or only words. In general, I would say vocals are shit, especially in trance/house generic crap.

Yeah I know, trance sucks. This forum is not called trance.nu, so all those who like trance should just quit...stop posting. Start posting about minimal...but please none of that trance crap....that's not what this forum is about!

lets not get too far off topic now

What i was wondering when i started this thread, was wether the use of vocals in some remixes is beyond the remixer's control... Its perplexing that they would create such a solid track in the first place that the vocals sound out of place , its almost like they were just doing their stuff making great music, until the time comes to actually include the vocals into the track... I cant count anymore the number of times ive been led into the song with a great buildup, only to be dissapointed when the vocals come in

Last edited by carmatic on Nov-22-2007 at 07:09

I generally don't like vocals in the more mainstream genres of electronic music, like house or trance. Some of the less "well defined" genres though, I feel completely the opposite. Groups like Massive Attack do some incredible stuff with their range of different vocalists.

Edit: Sorry, I'm a bit off topic.

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Originally posted by carmatic lets not get too far off topic now What i was wondering when i started this thread, was wether the use of vocals in some remixes are beyond the remixer's control... Its perplexing that they would create such a solid track in the first place that the vocals sound out of place , its almost like they were just doing their stuff making great music, until the time comes to actually include the vocals into the track... I cant count anymore the number of times ive been led into the song with a great buildup, only to be dissapointed when the vocals come in

Ok, to directly answer that...

Maybe they thought adding the vocal track was an improvement to the song? Because you don't like it, doesn't mean they don't. Often, remixers will remove large chunks of the vocal track, but I would think that is also due to their own taste. I'm not sure it sounds reasonable that a producer would be "forced" to include a vocal track?

Another reason for using vocals in EDM might be in order to appeal to a more mainstream market, and get some radio time/record sales. Again, it's not necessarily forced, but hey, it's nice to make a few bucks right?

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Vocals definitely fit house music the best. Some vocal trance tracks are okay, but house music just does them so much better...even those diva tracks! Justine Suissa is probably up there with Jan Johnston for vocal trance tracks....of all vocalists Jan Johnston has done the most for trance IMO

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Originally posted by Sykonee 2 Unlimited - Get Ready For This

I always thought it was the other way around for 2 Unlimited, because the UK versions were usually the largely instrumental ones. Apparently they thought that the UK would prefer more dancey, less poppy tracks. However, seems I was wrong.

On the subject more generally, vocals often work perfectly well in electronic music, provided the track was specifically written for them. Shitty "slap a vocal on" money-grabbing versions almost always suck, even though there are occasional exceptions.

That said, I rarely have time for vocals in trance.

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