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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
But, MrJive, if you grant the existence of a subtantial dualism (matter and spirit), what keeps spiritual substance from following different rules? Newtonian physics needn't apply in this case.

Nothing, of course.

Good luck defining the term "spirit" meaningfully (i.e. not purely in terms of what properties it doesn't have -- "no spatial location, not quantifiable, not destructible, etc." is the usual litany).

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Edit: Hey, why isn't Arthur wearing a santa hat? He's cranky, but it's still Christmas

Because nobody has made him one.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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can energy be destroyed?

Nope.

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Lira
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quote:
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Because nobody has made him one.

I'm going to uni and I'm going to make him one when I come back


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ballmouse
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Is it possible our assumptions of the universe are wrong?

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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by eROs.au
http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html Awesome short-story.

That was cool.

I've thought of something like that scenario before. Supposedly when things cool to near absolute zero, quantum effects become visible on a macroscopic scale. So maybe at the "end" of the universe quantum effects become so big that they result in a new universe popping into existence.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Is it possible our assumptions of the universe are wrong?

Sure.

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Lunar Phase 7
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I don't think so. The assumptions I listed seem to apply to anything with a body.

But maybe you want to say that consciousness can exist without any physical substrate whatsoever. My reply would be: evidence?


Is there a calculation that determines when all useful energy will be dissapated?


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st3nc
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ITT:

Insignificant MORTAL MINDS discussing the UNKNOWN...




Immortality...get over it plz...



we should be grateful for transient life...

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Is there a calculation that determines when all useful energy will be dissapated?

I don't think so, since we don't know the total amount of energy in the universe.

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Lunar Phase 7
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quote:
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I don't think so, since we don't know the total amount of energy in the universe.


Just wondering cause I remember they have estimated the total mass, and so I was wondering if they had calculated to total energy too.

Also are there no space anomalies that generate energy, even is hypothetical?

I wish i carried on physics, as it really interests me, I'm just too dumb to get my head aroundf the maths.


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quote:
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I wish i carried on physics, as it really interests me, I'm just too dumb to get my head aroundf the maths.


agreed...

although knowing the Math just bogs down your mind with unnecesary grunt work at a certain point...

the theories are all that really matter

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Also are there no space anomalies that generate energy, even is hypothetical?

I don't think so. Conservation of energy is one of the most fundamental principles of physics. If it were found to be untrue, then all kinds of crazy things might be possible (perpetual motion, for example).

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I wish i carried on physics, as it really interests me, I'm just too dumb to get my head aroundf the maths.

I don't really know much more than the basic concepts myself.

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