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Originally posted by idoru I really don't buy the validity of this story at all. Yes, its "the US we are talking about," but that seems just a tad far-fetched even for our government. The lack of any news article makes me doubt this even more.

If the CIA could have things its way, nobody, anywhere, would hear about the story at all. It's in its best interest to keep people ignorant. There really is nothing too "Far-fetched" when it comes to what people and organizations will do in the name of "national security".

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Oh wait. I think the CIA can't fine a person or an entity. They don't have the authority. All they can do is collect information.

...correct or incorrect?

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I believe they can do whatever they want

I think they destroyed their own incriminating evidence regarding torture/EITs and seems everyone is "cool with it"

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I don't understand what's real or what exactly is going on with this nonsense, but either way, I support anyone doing anything (just or unjust) to bring down 4chan gimps.

Food for Thought: If Hitler had chosen to destroy 4chan as opposed to Jews, we'd all be praising him as a hero.

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Originally posted by RJT I don't understand what's real or what exactly is going on with this nonsense, but either way, I support anyone doing anything (just or unjust) to bring down 4chan gimps. Food for Thought: If Hitler had chosen to destroy 4chan as opposed to Jews, we'd all be praising him as a hero.

You disappoint me.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On You disappoint me.

Meh - it's 4chan. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone to fight for their rights, deserved or not.



I like oligarchies.

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit I believe they can do whatever they want I think they destroyed their own incriminating evidence regarding torture/EITs and seems everyone is "cool with it"

They videotaped the collection of data (torturing detainees for info). And then destroyed the videotape.

I'm not cool with that (which is of no consequence one way or the other, seeing as I'm not american and even if I were my opinion would mean nothing in the grand scheme of things) BUT issuing a fine is different. A court could issue a fine. But an intelligence collecting agency? I don't think so...

But yeah, I don't "know" this.

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*cue "America is the only country in the world involved in clandestine interrogations and we must stop them at all costs!" rant from random TA X.... NOW!*

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Originally posted by RJT *cue "America is the only country in the world involved in clandestine interrogations and we must stop them at all costs!" rant from random TA X.... NOW!*

Hey, I represent that remark!

I'd like to hope I don't come off as terribly zealous and naieve as that sounds though...

In any case, "America" is not the enemy. It's fascist thought and action perpetrated upon undeserving people. And in this world, might is made right, and even applauded by fans of what they believe to be some sort of "order".

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All I know is there are plenty of imperialist dickhead facist nations our there - just because America is the huge fuckup du jour doesn't make their sins any less awful.

I don't like it anymore than you, but if we're going to condemn douchebaggery, let's do it universally - there are loads of other countries full of idiot cunts out there too, they just have leaders smart enough to avoid getting caught (for the time being).



Edit: And people who post on 4chan don't have any rights as far as I'm concerned.

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Originally posted by RJT All I know is there are plenty of imperialist dickhead facist nations our there - just because America is the huge fuckup du jour doesn't make their sins any less awful. I don't like it anymore than you, but if we're going to condemn douchebaggery, let's do it universally - there are loads of other countries full of idiot cunts out there too, they just have leaders smart enough to avoid getting caught (for the time being). Edit: And people who post on 4chan don't have any rights as far as I'm concerned.

Here, here.

And yeah, "rights" are mostly bullshit in the first place. Like, TAs shouldn't have "rights" outside of the right to privacy - this is an international forum, so only international laws should even apply... which are, I believe, almost restricted only to not flying planes into building or sharing child pornography. I guess with that in mind, 4chan does sort of violate both of those, hmm....

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I think we're officially through the looking glass here people.

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