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sljiva
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Zagreb

quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
no there is an even older one from 86 97 or 88. i can't think of the name now but i posted a link in some thread about six months ago. cookies for you if you can find it.


Yeah, if I remember correctly it was a tune from 1983 that sounded more like disco than anything else

Old Post Dec-11-2007 19:04  Croatia
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PETRAN
Like Antennas To Heaven



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece

EDM starting in the 90s? Well, for those who say that, you obviously haven't heard of "chicago house"... (that is the first genre of EDM!?) Just follow the link below...


Mr. Fingers (Larry Heard)- "Can You Feel It" (1986)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFuujExs03A


and if we can also consider the 80s electro/EBM/Industrial as a proto-EDM then wellcome to the amazing EDM of the 80s: (follow the links please).



Cabaret Voltaire- "I Want you"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2vnP-jA-Oc


Front-242- "Operating Tracks"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRpeVcjMvNo


F*cking amazing dark EBM/Industrial music of the 80s. I love how these tracks had a "gothic" influence (Sisters of Mercy ruled lol!). Not for the ASOT kids!


Oh yeah and Depeche Mode don't play "Emo" or anything like that FFS! "Emo" is a new bloody thing, Depeche were a classic synth-pop/new-wave band of the 80s (with a "gothic" influence as well, especially in albums like "black celebration"). I would say that they were quite influenced by earlier synth-pop/new-wave bands like "Tears for Fears", "A Flock of Seagulls", "OMD" etc. (amazing bands as well) but i think that they were the kings of this specific genre, together with New Order ( Ok "Talk Talk" were actually better...)

Old Post Dec-11-2007 23:06  Greece
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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
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Ok, now that i think of it, the first "trance" (sounding) tune is probably THIS:




Gershon Kingsley- "Popcorn" (1969!!!!!!)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSRCemf2JHc


First of all, "trance" as music and concept was probably invented/inspired by 70s ambient master Klaus Schulze (whose 70s classic electronic albums such as "Timewind", "Moondawn", "Mirage" and "X" heavily influenced later ambient/electronic/krautrock artists such as Vangelis, Kraftwerk and Jean Michel Jarre. Rumour has it that the very same name-"trance" was inspired by Schulze's highly appraised 1981 album "Trancefer and 1988s "En=Trance". Here is "stardancer" from the 1978 album (OST) "body-love-2"


Klaus Schulze- "Stardancer-2" (1978)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2cG...feature=related



And another classic Trance (?) tune by Vangelis!:


Vangelis- "The Dragon" (1979)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpAX...feature=related


and what about these classic 70s proto-electronic/ambient/space-music (trance?) pieces by Tangerine Dream?:



Tangerine Dream- "Ricochet 2/2"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoSN...feature=related

(The journey starts at the 2-minute mark)



Tangerine Dream- "Madrigal Meridian" (1978-from "Cyclone")


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzqg...feature=related


(wait till 3 minutes were the journey begins...trully bloody amazing cosmic [trance?] music!)






So, "trance music" as a form of electronic music that contains lots of repeatetive loopy arpeggios and dreamy lush pads existed before (in a way) the 80s electro/EBM/Industrial/Chicago House/Detroit Techno genre. It just came back in the 90s as a form of dance music with a streight "Four-to-the-floor" beat.

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Spirit5
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Petran, those are great tracks, definitely hear the influence, but what about this one...I always think of this as one of the most influential tracks to the melodic trance sound.

Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygen II (1976)

I've always thought since I first heard Jean Michel Jarre in 2001 that trance music (well the stuff I liked) was more influenced by him, and the others you listed from the 1970s, than techno. Maybe because it was more atmospheric, spacey, trippy...where techno, esp Detroit, is more soulful like house, and other techno is more relentless...where this track and others just build up and down throughout the track with all these trippy synth sounds..arpeggios.

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Spartan
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Washington DC

bleck.. Tangerine Dream in the 80s was not their proudest moment imo. You have to go back even farther to their 70s works, but not as far as their really weirdo 60s stuff.

What about the soundtrack to The Terminator? 1984. Haha some def. EDM roots in there.

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Mr Game+Watch
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Long Island, NY

I would argue that one of the first trance songs is Pink Floyd "On The Run".

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SMC
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
I would argue that one of the first trance songs is Pink Floyd "On The Run".


Yes, but then whoever used a sequencer for the first time made the first trance song. It's not that simple.

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chadi
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Registered: Oct 2006
Location: United States

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
maybe something like this?



If you don't mind me asking, which tune is that? I'm really liking it.

Last edited by chadi on Dec-13-2007 at 15:53

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SMC
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Location: Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by chadi
If you don't mind me asking, which tune is that? I'm really liking it.


Ticon - 1987

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