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[Alpha]Dave
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by jey
done the mute thing and it doesnt work!

when u mute the signal kick u kill the signal completly...

any other ideas... im using battery 2 in cubase 3...

I use cubase myself, so it does work. But apperently you arrange your drums in battery (I arrange them in the main sequencer windwow). So I still stick what I said before, have the trigger kick as an muted audio-channel (and have your other drums in battery). Because the mute-button is the one of the last things in the signal chain, the trigger function isn't effected by it. Since I do this myself all the time, I can assure you that if works flawlessly.


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thermate
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Registered: Aug 2007
Location: Z'u'rich
sidechainzor

I do sidechaining in cubase. You need a plugin that supports 3+4 quadro channel I believe. I use Voxengo Crunchessor.

1) create a quadro group
2) go to Devices->vst connections->group/fx, and right click on the new quadro channel, and create a child stereo and a child Ls Rs stereo
3) your bassline output should be routed to the stereo part of the quadro group
**4) your kick should be either routed to Ls Rs stereo of the quadro group or you can use a send to the same group.
5) go to the quadro group and create an insert using your plugin. Select 3 + 4, or quadro channel in the plugin so it knows you want stereo sidechaining.
6) Tweak your compressor till it sounds good


**Note, depending on which setting you use here, your kick will either play or not play. If you don't hear the kick but your bassline is pumping ok, just make a send from your kick to a mono or stereo channel, and you should hear it.

I usually use battery 2 with this method, but anything works obviously

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jey
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: N.Ireland
Re: sidechainzor

quote:
Originally posted by thermate
I do sidechaining in cubase. You need a plugin that supports 3+4 quadro channel I believe. I use Voxengo Crunchessor.

1) create a quadro group
2) go to Devices->vst connections->group/fx, and right click on the new quadro channel, and create a child stereo and a child Ls Rs stereo
3) your bassline output should be routed to the stereo part of the quadro group
**4) your kick should be either routed to Ls Rs stereo of the quadro group or you can use a send to the same group.
5) go to the quadro group and create an insert using your plugin. Select 3 + 4, or quadro channel in the plugin so it knows you want stereo sidechaining.
6) Tweak your compressor till it sounds good


**Note, depending on which setting you use here, your kick will either play or not play. If you don't hear the kick but your bassline is pumping ok, just make a send from your kick to a mono or stereo channel, and you should hear it.

I usually use battery 2 with this method, but anything works obviously


cheers for that mate. will have a go.....

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sterilis
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Belfast/Ibiza/Manchester
Re: Re: sidechainzor

quote:
Originally posted by jey
cheers for that mate. will have a go.....


let me know if this works because i aint investing in that vst unless it defo works.

last time when i was messing about with quadro groups when i exported it as stereo it didnt mix down the quadro groups which is understandable but i couldnt figure out how to get it all mixed down with the quadro and stereo groups.


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lenieNt Force
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Registered: Aug 2007
Location: Norway, Oslo

Whats so much better with stereo sidechaining anyway? Whats the actual difference? How is it working compared to mono?

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farris
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Everyone missed my post or what?

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lenieNt Force
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Location: Norway, Oslo

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Everyone missed my post or what?

no.. why?

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lenieNt Force
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whats the difference between mono and stereo sidechaining?

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thermate
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Registered: Aug 2007
Location: Z'u'rich

Stereo sidechaining can take a stereo source, and key it to a another stereo source. You can now use a kick to sidechain a widely panned lead, or pad.

Mono sidechaining will only take mono signals, and if you try to take that panned lead or pad with a kick, it will be in mono, and will lose its wideness.

Sorta it

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lenieNt Force
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Registered: Aug 2007
Location: Norway, Oslo

Ah... guess I've always used stereo sidechaning afterall then..

so in mono sidechaning the ducking sound always stays completely in mono? rofl.. who bothers to use that?

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sterilis
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quote:
Originally posted by lenieNt Force
Ah... guess I've always used stereo sidechaning afterall then..

so in mono sidechaning the ducking sound always stays completely in mono? rofl.. who bothers to use that?


me kick and sub bass


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lenieNt Force
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me kick and sub bass

Understandable... But still... u can make the kick and bass mono with stereo scc also... Is something forcing u to use mono scc?

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