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MisterOpus1
Grumpy Old Fart

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City
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| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
I also hate to point out that sometimes if the gun is pointed at your head and loaded and you're told that you'll be killed unless you leave, perhaps it would be a good idea to leave.
Woman had a death wish and as much as I feel sorry for her, I also feel her death was stupid. I guess politics were her life and she martyred herself for her cause. I wonder if she gets 72 hot guy-virgins?
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There's a great many leaders in our time who've died for the cause they strongly believe in. It wasn't merely "politics" that she died for, and I'm hoping you see what she stood for as a little bit more than that.
For her to leave because "a gun was pointing at her head" would entail her principles stood for little in the face of fear.
Her ideas of democracy in the face of terrorism and dictatorship have certainly gotten her killed. But the seed is planted there thanks to her courage. Whether or not that seed blooms will be up to the people in Pakistan.
And I would take caution if I were you or RebeL9 in regards to flaming and petty namecalling. Lira doesn't really stand for that bullshit much anymore here, and rightfully so.
Added in Edit: I am aware of her former corrupt government, as well as her hand in the creation of the Taliban (albeit with intentions similar to ours with al Qaeda in the Cold War). I think she had a definite image of democracy that perhaps her reputation as a whole didn't mesh up entirely to that image, and that has to be conceded. However, what's also clear is Pakistan as a whole is nothing shy of a fucking mess with a dictatorship on the one end trying to hold things together and recently upending their judicial system while pushing back the Islamic extremists who continue to have a good deal of countrywide support. So perhaps her image of saving the entire country via democracy was a bit overblown, but perhaps that image can still grow to something worthwhile to the country and the region.
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Last edited by MisterOpus1 on Dec-27-2007 at 18:05
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Dec-27-2007 17:53
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notepad
tranceaddict in training
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| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
that's some PR material right there. |
I think she was no less than the assasination of mahatma gandhi.. its just PR which makes the difference.. both died for the cause of democracy.. for the nation.. selfless service.
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Dec-27-2007 18:00
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paranormal-real
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| quote: | Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
I won't be amazed if later we find that Musharraf was behind this.
Musharraf = Putin = assassination to save their own a$$. |
LOL...she was corrupt and the reason she left Pakistan isi because they wanted to jail her for corruption and fundling money out into foreign bank accounts in her name. She was corrupt and was not good. Musharraf is oddly enough a reformer and not as corrupt of a leader. He is good for Pakistan and hopefully he can unite the army together and bring more control under his rule.
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Dec-27-2007 18:01
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