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Originally posted by Beat Blog Thus, I like albums "partly mixed", which have a definite flow and similarities between adjacent tracks, which make them seem mixed.

Me too. Not having those few seconds of silence between tracks makes a world of difference. Oh, and fadeouts should be made illegal.

Ironically, LCD Soundsystem's first album is one of the very few I own that I really do regret buying.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Eh? I take it this guy isn't concerning himself with all those dancey ambient albums from the 90s, many of which were easily modeled in the same vein as prog rock albums from the 70s.

yeah he seems to be rather clueless


in any case i was hoping it'd start a discussion on the appropriateness of the album with regard to dance music

I dont like mixed albums. To me it decreases the value of an album if it is premixed. If I'm paying up for an album I want all the tracks in their original versions, because if they're not then does that mean I need to go and buy the damn singles too after buying the album to have full versions of the tracks? I'd say the best option would be a 2 disc set, one disc with original tracks (no matter what order), and other one mixed. Some albums have had one disc with tracks, and another disc a DJ mix but with other people's tracks though. If I remember correctly Mark Norman - Synchroncity and Way Out West - Dont Look Now did this. Interesting format as well.

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Originally posted by Elec I dont like mixed albums. To me it decreases the value of an album if it is premixed. If I'm paying up for an album I want all the tracks in their original versions, because if they're not then does that mean I need to go and buy the damn singles too after buying the album to have full versions of the tracks?

You're not really buying the album for the listening experience though. It sounds like you're a DJ after the tracks to mix with.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You're not really buying the album for the listening experience though. It sounds like you're a DJ after the tracks to mix with.

So? Thats a valid audience...

and I agree... unmixed tracks+ a dj mix (usually with others tracks as well) to showcase some tracks would be great. In fact chuck in one track in the DJ mix that isn't released again till the next album and you've got an idea for promotion.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter So? Thats a valid audience...

Not really. You may as well ask for artists to mix together their singles, because everyone who isn't a DJ and just wants a good listening experience is also a "valid audience", and a much larger one. Don't fuck up the format. DJs have the single. Let everyone else have the album.

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If an artist's album needs to be mixed to take out the boring bits... well, why have the boring bits in there in the first place?

In psytrance there are generally two types of artist albums: 1) a bunch of tracks in the same style for DJs to rip up a dance floor, and 2) a genuine artistic statement. Of course, either approach can fail, but the first one is dead easy for most producers to accomplish. Albums aimed at the DJ market are boring for home listening, sure... but that's like saying broccoli is a poor insulator--that isn't what it's for, brainiac!

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Originally posted by basilisk Albums aimed at the DJ market are boring for home listening, sure... but that's like saying broccoli is a poor insulator--that isn't what it's for, brainiac!

I think thats a bit of an overstatement. Aimed at the DJ market being any dance song, you mean? I've heard many albums completely filled with dance 4 to the flour music that were absolutely stunning.

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No, I mean albums purpose-built for DJ consumption. Psytrance is full of these--8 or 9 similar tracks lumped together with no discernible attempt at storytelling of any kind. Artist albums can feature nothing but DJ-friendly tunes and still sound good at home, but it usually requires a little more thought and effort than many producers in my field seem interested in providing.

yes, in that case I agree with you.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter So? Thats a valid audience...

It most certainly is, but I don't see why this would prevent you from appreciating the album listening experience just because it doesn't fit your practical concerns.

I'm with you on wanting unmixed artist albums, though. There are a bunch of tracks I wanted that I thought already had in unmixed format, so now I have to buy the singles. Still, if it's all thoughtfully crafted, I'm still very much able to enjoy the end-result.

As for the subject in general, the partially mixed format has been around for a decent period of time now, with the typical blending of the ambient outro-intro accounting for most of the 'mixing.'

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost It most certainly is, but I don't see why this would prevent you from appreciating the album listening experience just because it doesn't fit your practical concerns. I'm with you on wanting unmixed artist albums, though. There are a bunch of tracks I wanted that I thought already had in unmixed format, so now I have to buy the singles. Still, if it's all thoughtfully crafted, I'm still very much able to enjoy the end-result. As for the subject in general, the partially mixed format has been around for a decent period of time now, with the typical blending of the ambient outro-intro accounting for most of the 'mixing.'

Partially mixed songs can still be used so long as its not at the start or end of the mix surely? If the albums constrcuted correctly you'll probably only want to use starter tracks for starter mixes and ending tracks for ending mixes.

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