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Omega_M
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So all these languages are related ?

Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu


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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
So all these languages are related ?

Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu

Indeed, they are.

I'm going to finish transcribing some stuff here and I'll show you some interesting evidence afterwards


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So all these languages are related ?

Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu


That's pretty damn interesting.

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Omega_M
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happy bday




Thank you


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Heh happy birthday man


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whatever Lira said!

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Happy Birthday Omega!

Hope you have a good one mate!


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Bah weep grah weep ninni bong!


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Happy birthday!


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Why Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu are related

For simplicity's sake, I'm going to pick Sanskrit (from which Hindi, Marathi have evolved) and Latin (from which Portuguese, French, ... have evolved). I'll also try to avoid any kind of jargon and stuff - if it does sound complicated, though, do tell me, and I'll try to make myself clearer

Firstly, it's not rare for words with similar meaning to resemble one another. For example "Mirar" in Spanish means "to look", and so does the verb "Miru" in Japanese. However, once you analyse the languages more carefully, you can't see that happening systematically.

However, when you have entire systems that resemble one another, then you probably something going on. When you compare Sanskrit and Latin numbers, for example, you don't need to be a linguist to notice something strikingly similar between the two languages:











Latin NumbersSanskrit Numbers
1unuséka
2duodvá
3trestrí
4quattuorcatúr
5quinquepańca
6sexṣáṣ
7septemsaptá
8octoaṣṭá
9novemnáva
10decemdáśa


The numbers 2,3,4,7 and 9 are almost identical and, when there are more differences, linguists can count on a bunch of rules that explain how the sounds changed in each of these languages. Notice, for example, how the sound "e" in Latin often becomes "a" in Sanskrit.

However, that's not enough. If two languages are really genetically related (yup, that's the terminology), the grammar must also show some common traces. And, once again, you've got that: Words both in Sanskrit and Latin change according to their function in a sentence. For example, if you a rose is the subject of a sentence, in Latin, you say "Rosa". If it's the object, you say "Rosam". If something belongs to the god damn rose, you say "Rosae". And, this is the cool thing about Latin and Sanskrit. The way they do that is quite similar, and I'm adding Greek this time, just so you can understand how the changes "flow" accross languages:






LatinGreekSanskrit
GenusGenosGanas
GenerisGeneosGanasas
GenereGeneiGanasi
GeneraGeneaGanasu
GenerumGeneonGanasam


Did you find the common pattern? Well, let's consider "ganas, ganasas,..." the most conservative form. There's some evidence that intervocalic "s" fell in old Greek, and it became "r" in Latin. If you turn things back to what they probably were like, the similarities become even more obvious:






"Old" Latin"Old" GreekSanskrit
GenusGenosGanas
GenesisGenesosGanasas
GeneseGenesiGanasi
GenesaGenesaGanasu
GenesumGenesonGanasam


All these 3 languages treat their nouns the same way, and sound too much alike. You can assume that, if that's the case, they probably have a common ancestor (just like two brothers have the same parents). And, upon further inspection, that is the case.

So that's briefly how we know that Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu are all related



edit: Why is there such a giant gap between the text and the tables!?


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vino, wine in spanish, is also wine in russian.

at least according to a clockwork orange


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eRRaTiK
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unf unf unf sounds the same no matter what language you speak


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