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Silky Johnson
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Pffft, you guys just aren't surrounding yourself with the right people.

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Ghost Raver
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Re: What's freedom for you?

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quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Masturbating with the blinds open.

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Lira
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quote:
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Pffft, you guys just aren't surrounding yourself with the right people.

My friends are pretty tolerant folks. However, society in general isn't like that.

I'd be really free if I could get myself pierced (which has nothing to do with anyone else's life) and had no problem finding a job. Hell, sometimes gay people get beaten by individuals who have nothing to do whatsoever with their sexual lives... I really find it hard to be free in such environment.


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Halcyon+On+On
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"Freedom" is the word that social propagandists toss around to pique people's individual interests in a neo-civil rights sense. It is an illusion in this sense as well. It is something to be exchanged, something to be bartered for or sold as a phony inconsideration - and why shouldn't it be? People buy it in this sense just as if it were an essential truth. Just as if they were individuals deserving of this indulgence.

But it's not as though there is some freedom quota out there or some collective sum.

Freedom is something to be taken, something to be earned, by those with that rare sense to seize it for themselves. Is this the same illusion though? Is leadership and an overinflated sense of duty to the self or an autonomous self-interest really just a result of eventual conditioning? Who can say?

It is far easier for people like myself to sit back and let everyone know what freedom isn't. To suggest any truly personal answer as to what freedom actually is would be a great disservice to its very status. That is to say, personal freedom is personal.


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quote:
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Pffft, you guys just aren't surrounding yourself with the right people.


The proposition of surrounding oneself with people who allow you to be completely and utterly free at all times is a somewhat frightening concept.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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I wonder what people who have escaped from North Korea think of the idea that freedom is an illusion.

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RJT
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Freedom is having $1.05


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Liebchen



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Indeed, I wonder if they found the land of opportunity to be everything it was cracked up to be.

Or if all the 'freedom' in South Korea is worth it. Pure, unregulated, economically viable freedom. Ahh, lap it up.


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Lira
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quote:
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The proposition of surrounding oneself with people who allow you to be completely and utterly free at all times is a somewhat frightening concept.

Why?


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Silky Johnson
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quote:
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The proposition of surrounding oneself with people who allow you to be completely and utterly free at all times is a somewhat frightening concept.



Why?

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Liebchen



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quote:
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Why?


A human with absolutely no incentive by social or hygienic means to bathe, refrain from eating or tasting whatever he or she felt like, defecating at will or heeding every instinctual urge to simulate procreative measures does not sound like someone I would like to chill with.

It's why I don't let jennypie come over anymore.


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Re: Re: What's freedom for you?

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