We were discussing this very topic at work last week, and my manager made a comment; Toronto is not a hockey town, it is a Leafs town.

Diehard fans, and there are plenty of them, support them no matter how they perform.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur To the Maple Leaf franchise, there's little incentive to draft good players and good coaches to try to win the cup.

The incentive for MLSE is and always will be money.....making the playoffs just creates millions of dollars more in their pockets.

The problem is too many chiefs trying to make decisions...none of which have any clue about hockey. MLSE has to get a true hockey person to be in charge...someone who doesn't have to report to the board on every single decision they want to make. Scotty Bowman is the perfect candidate for this but MLSE doesn't want to give up control....and until they do...the leafs are doomed to sit in the lower half of the league.

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Originally posted by slingshot I don't know what the actual revenue figures would be but I don't think it would be unreasonable to say that going to the conference finals would bring in an extra 10-20 million dollars (and I think I may be low balling it here).

Typically, the average profit per home playoff game is $1 million.

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Originally posted by illestofdananas ps. exciting football games are still pretty boring

Not sure what games you were watching yesterday, but they were nowhere near what I'd consider boring. The NFC Championship was one of the most exciting games I've seen in a long time.....

p.p.s. - The Leafs suck balls. Until they decide to.....

1.) Fire Ferguson.
2.) Blow up the entire squad, trading for future draft picks.
3.) Put people with good hockey minds in charge of drafting/scouting.

.... I will continue my anti-support for this lack luster franchise.

This organization doesn't give a fuck about winning the cup. All they care about is putting a half decent squad together each and every year, that is good enough to maybe squeak into the playoffs, so all the die-hard fans can say 'ohhhh, we almost made it.... next year.'. Retarded.

Toronto has a team that has done all the right things to put them in a position to win.... They're called the Raptors.

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Originally posted by zokissima Toronto is not a hockey town, it is a Leafs town. Diehard fans, and there are plenty of them, support them no matter how they perform.

The core of the problem.

Sure the front office execs arent hockey ppl and we know its just a business for them...
But if this quote wasn't accurate, action would have been taken LONG ago

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Originally posted by TheVrk The core of the problem. Sure the front office execs arent hockey ppl and we know its just a business for them... But if this quote wasn't accurate, action would have been taken LONG ago

Its not diehard fans that fill the ACC every game....its corporations that fill the seats so even if the diehard fans stopped going to games and stopped buying merchandise and all that other crap the ACC would still sell out every game....heck....every corporation that has tickets could give up their tickets and there would be 18,000 more corporations waiting to buy them.

The leafs have been mediocre for so long that they always end up with middle of the pack first round picks at draft time. After the top 5 picks its basically a crap shoot as to who will and won't make it in the NHL and even those players are most likely second or third liners. The leafs cannot improve in the modern NHL without going in the dumps for a few seasons.

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Like it has been said, the players and the organization doesn't give a shit about winning. Because people will still watch and people will still sell out every game. It's sick. It's almost like leafs fans want the leafs to lose to have something to bitch about every morning.

Leafs fans, get it through your heads, THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU. You pay for the ridiculously prices seats, you watch every game and commercials (super ad revenue), you walk around in the jerseys and coats and they don't even have to win! HA HA. I would be laughing too. Leafs Nation is a sad bunch. There would be nothing to talk about if they were actually winning.

go habs go

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess Like it has been said, the players and the organization doesn't give a shit about winning. Because people will still watch and people will still sell out every game. It's sick. It's almost like leafs fans want the leafs to lose to have something to bitch about every morning. Leafs fans, get it through your heads, THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU. You pay for the ridiculously prices seats, you watch every game and commercials (super ad revenue), you walk around in the jerseys and coats and they don't even have to win! HA HA. I would be laughing too. Leafs Nation is a sad bunch. There would be nothing to talk about if they were actually winning.

It is a bit of a bone of contention in our house... Adam being a lifelong Leafs fan and me thinking they are the most pathetic bunch of over-paid, badly managed professional sport players the world has ever seen...

TOFC. 4 letters, the future of Toronto sport.

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Originally posted by NuERA go habs go

I may not be a leafs fan but you want a sharp punch to your upper arm for this blasphemy, Andrew.

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I have been a leafs fan my entire life...what it has done to me is lowered my expectations and made me good at making excuses. What I have learned in over 30 years of being let down by the Leafs (yes...I'm that old)is the following:
1) The Leafs are run like a business, not a professional sports team - they are owned my the teachers pension plan...nuff said. They will NEVER win the cup while the OTPP owns them
2) The top brass from the MLSE organization knows SFA about running a hockey team - that is why Scotty Bowman would not accept the senior consultant role unless they were fired.
3) The Leafs always play to the level of the team they are playing against. They can be a great team, but when playing a crap team...they play crap for some reason. This is REALLY frustrating
4) Even when they are crap, the fans still show up....so there is no rush to change anything. If the Raptors aren't doing well, then the fans stop coming and the team makes a lot less money - so something gets done.
5) Through all of this - I somehow still remain a Leafs fan, so I guess I'm part of the problem.

Go Leafs Go!

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