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donnybrasco
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: L.A.

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
we should now focus our mission to elect this guy:


SHEEPLE in 08!!!

lol


LOL!!

I'm so voting for him!....it....that thing, whatever the fuck it is, lol.

I just hope he can lead us to greener pastures!

BAHDUM-BUM!

Thank you, thank you! Two shows on Sunday everyone! Thank you...


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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
1. Take a breath

2. Remove that Foil Hat

3. Stop thinking the boogie man is out to get you.

keep the faith


So you're just another one of the speak no evil, hear no evil crowd who seems to think that there's not a movement trying to either squelch or defame Ron Paul and his supporters?

Using Conspiracy Poo-pooist catchphrase number 62, no less.

You guys are getting more and more artistic everyday! Joseph Goebbels would be proud

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donnybrasco
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OMG, this is SCARY; Trancer and I support the same basic principles we'd like to see in our Presidential Candidate!!

This is proof-positive that I'm going nuts! Lord, help me...help me....

Actually, I'm not fully on board with all of Ron Paul's agenda. I am a registered Libertarian, but I don't support all of their causes either....but is anyone really ever just a shill for their party?

But still, I will say this; I'd rather have Libertarians in office on state and local levels at the very least, more than any other party.

But correct me if I'm wrong; Trancer, didn't you post some Ron Paul quotes somewhere in here that supported conspiracy theories of some sort? Because if you did, I'd like to try and confirm them, for one thing...and then dis-associate myself from them for another, lol.


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pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion



Registered: Jul 2002
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
I hate to say it but I've come to the conclusion that some of you guys are either extremely disingenuous or just such a big bunch of nitwits that it's not even funny.


its amazing how you cry and put me on ignore, yet have no problem with firing off the first insult at one of TA's sharpest intellects. it is truly stunning how you treat people that happen to disagree with you.

you really are a piece of work

there are so many different political opinionates on this board, yet an overwhelming majority here mock you. why do people like renegade, occrider, moral hazard, arbiter, grumpy opus, george smiley etc think there's nothing to your ramblings? do you have ANY respect for anyone here that disagrees with you? coz i've never seen any.

if it wasn't for posters like me that just can't keep their mouth (fingers) shut at some of your ridiculous conclusions (to the flimsiest pieces of ambiguous evidence), you'd have no one here to argue with at all.

quote:


But correct me if I'm wrong; Trancer, didn't you post some Ron Paul quotes somewhere in here that supported conspiracy theories of some sort? Because if you did, I'd like to try and confirm them, for one thing...and then dis-associate myself from them for another, lol.


mate, the guy is basically a creationist, denying the "proven" status of evolution for crying out loud. i cant respect politicians that make bad errors of judgement about things i consider inherently important.

the way the guy is paranoid about inflation like its the worst possible problem you can have with an economy really shits me. "inflation = theft" they cry, yet ignore those whose incomes move at or above CPI. there will always be winners and losers with different models and structures of an economy. no matter what system is utilised.

and if you and trancer agree on a candidate, well that's is truly remarkable!


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DJ Shibby
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you really are a piece of work


you both are...

now to get you both to realize that and perhaps even work together to make this world a better place. you've been challenged.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
you both are...


thanks i know im no angel, but there are plenty of people on here i DO treat with respect, even (especially?) when they disagree with me. trancer, on the other hand, launches into arrogant juvenile condescension at the drop of a hat. you tell me from your experience in the PDD, does someone like renegade deserve that attack? im happy for it to be levelled at me

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
now to get you both to realize that and perhaps even work together to make this world a better place. you've been challenged.


never happen. i truly respect trancer's intellect, knowledge, and commitment, but most of his conclusions (or at least the more "alternative" ones) just do my head in. for someone that joined an EDM internet forum, he also puts the boot into people enjoying commercialism an awful lot. i dont know why he thinks the enjoyment he gets out of reading the latest book that catches his eye is inherently superior to the enjoyment i get out of a good PC game (forged alliance!) or television series (battlestar galatica!).

his past times are no more likely to change the world than mine are, which is the funniest part. right now i have the absolute freedom tp associate with whom i wish, see all the movies i choose to, read any book im interested in, get away with doing anything in my own house as long as im careful about it, travel where i wish, think what i want, express what i think and want, have had access to one of the strongest (formal) educations in the world, am free to own and use property, indulge in whatever music i choose to.

now, if none of ^^ that is a component of free choice and expression, then im not sure i give two shits about what "real" freedom is.


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DJ Shibby
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
thanks i know im no angel, but there are plenty of people on here i DO treat with respect, even (especially?) when they disagree with me. trancer, on the other hand, launches into arrogant juvenile condescension at the drop of a hat. you tell me from your experience in the PDD, does someone like renegade deserve that attack? im happy for it to be levelled at me



never happen. i truly respect trancer's intellect, knowledge, and commitment, but most of his conclusions (or at least the more "alternative" ones) just do my head in. for someone that joined an EDM internet forum, he also puts the boot into people enjoying commercialism an awful lot. i dont know why he thinks the enjoyment he gets out of reading the latest book that catches his eye is inherently superior to the enjoyment i get out of a good PC game (forged alliance!) or television series (battlestar galatica!).

his past times are no more likely to change the world than mine are, which is the funniest part. right now i have the absolute freedom tp associate with whom i wish, see all the movies i choose to, read any book im interested in, get away with doing anything in my own house as long as im careful about it, travel where i wish, think what i want, express what i think and want, have had access to one of the strongest (formal) educations in the world, am free to own and use property, indulge in whatever music i choose to.

now, if none of ^^ that is a component of free choice and expression, then im not sure i give two shits about what "real" freedom is.


"Real" freedom is a beautiful thing that starts with the individual and branches out into the collective.

If you think and believe that you've found it, rather than been given it, then perhaps indeed you have. That's all that counts, really.

Anyway, good response, I wish you all the best of course, and always am hoping for it.

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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala
how exactly does a political candidate "produce" people?

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Fixed. And because that's just the kind of candidate he is.


Transfer. This is a technique of projecting positive or negative qualities (praise or blame) of a person, entity, object, or value (an individual, group, organization, nation, patriotism, etc.) to another in order to make the second more acceptable or to discredit it. This technique is generally used to transfer blame from one member of a conflict to another. It evokes an emotional response which stimulates the target to identify with recognized authorities.

Psychological Operations Field Manual No.33-1, Department of the Army, August 1979

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we_R_DNA
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Right, Here

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Since you guys don't seem to remember, this is the same guy who was ridiculing this board for all of it's alleged "conspiracy theories" just a few months ago.

He's probably just another shill trying to make Ron Paul supporters look bad through guilt by association, one of the only ways that the establishment has been able to successfully disparage the good doctor.


Damn if only I could disparage the United States Congress Men and Women who vote Yes for retro-active immunity for large telecom corps.

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we_R_DNA
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Right, Here

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
First:

Second: Nobody is talking about the Louisiana caucuses because they don't matter. Do you understand the caucus system? Only about a 1000 super diehard voters caucus, and they do so in rounds, where if one candidate doesn't get a certain threshold, they're thrown out. So if everybody else splits the vote, it makes the outlier (Ron Paul) look good. But seriously, the Louisiana caucus matters about as much as the Guam caucus. Wait for the Feb. 9 primary.



Ahh. . .ahhhhh. . .. wait caucus don't matter? Then why the fek do these political figures spend thousands of dollars on these psychological ad-campaigns? Oh yeah money doesn't matter and the FED just creates this sh!t out of their own bum.

Wait wait, lulz you almost had me believing you; seriously!

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we_R_DNA
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN


wow. why does america produce so many freakin crazy people? oh, and sentences & paragraphs are your friend.


Honestly this is an Ad-hominem approach which is a logical fallacy. You have truly offended me in your approach to a logical argument. Oh wait you are not even really arguing you just think that American citizens with the rights to freedom of speech are crazy!?!?!

This makes you a terrorist on our Liberties and Freedoms of Speech!!!!

EPIC FAILURE!!

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we_R_DNA
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Right, Here

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
How come you never replied to your old thread, DNA?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...?postid=8259091


It was a funny ass video; BTW I do not support the crazy ass guy in that video. I just found his rhetoric to some of the most funniest shit that day so I shared it.

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