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Paulie
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: NomansLand

Anarky, how bout some change in mentality, thats change, a pay cheque and an apology isnt change, thats just a fkn cop out.


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Old Post Feb-02-2008 05:13  Australia
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Dr P
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Bayside

quote:
Originally posted by charlee
Exactly the same way my taxes pay for some rapist to sit in a jail cell or to appeal their sentence.

I'd much rather my money go to the aboriginals than some gang rapist who cares nothing for the morals of this society.

That being said, I fkn love Kevin Rudd and its about bloody time.


what there are no high profile abo gang rapists? especially the **** that gets away with it!!!


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anarky
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Melbourne

quote:
Originally posted by Paulie
Anarky, how bout some change in mentality, thats change, a pay cheque and an apology isnt change, thats just a fkn cop out.


What? The first thing I said was that people needed to be educated on the conditions of the Aborigines...

A pay cheque and apology is like paying child support. It's something you've done in the past and you have to pay for it until there is a consensus that there has been some resolve.

Old Post Feb-02-2008 06:37  Australia
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MiSSyM
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: MELBOURNE

shut the fuk up paulie you tightass

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charlee
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Prahran

quote:
Originally posted by Dr P
what there are no high profile abo gang rapists? especially the **** that gets away with it!!!


You are missing the point completely

Saying that using tax payers money for compensation isnt fair doesnt make sense. We compensate people who dont have jobs or are in need all the time. We are suing each other left, right and centre. You wanna be paid for falling over in a restaurant? How about for having your family kidnapped, raped and murdered?

I dont believe that throwing money at the issue will solve it, but it's about time our Federal Government became sreiously committed to re-establishing a relationship with the Aboriginal Community.

Lub u all

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JayseP
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Registered: Aug 2006
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well said charlee.. where'd the brains come from? trade in ya boobs? lubb choo


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Old Post Feb-02-2008 11:24  Australia
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charlee
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Prahran

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well said charlee.. where'd the brains come from? trade in ya boobs? lubb choo


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Dean Millson
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Below the bassline...

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Originally posted by charlee
I dont believe that throwing money at the issue will solve it, but it's about time our Federal Government became seriously committed to re-establishing a relationship with the Aboriginal Community.


I agree Charlee, which is exactly why compensation shouldn't even enter the discussion because money is the most superficial thing you can establish any relationship around.

The more this issue gets poisoned and distorted by ego, the more difficult it will be for everyone to find some common ground to move forward from. I think there should be an apology made, because mistakes were made. In acknowledging these mistakes we ultimately highlight what we have learnt and how far we have come as a nation over the last 200 years–and how much further we can go together over the next 200 years (if we're not under water by then )


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charlee
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Prahran

Maybe if the Government pledged more money (and bodies) to programs that assist the communites instead of paying out sums of cash. Is that was is proposed? Just lump sums of money? I actually havent looked into the issue of compensation in great depth to know what is being planned.

I dont think that sums of cash is a good idea but then again, who am I to say what is right for these people? Thats what got us here in the first place.

Coincidentally,I just returned from William Rickett's Sanctuary at Mt Dandenong after checking out the amazing carvings of Aboriginal people. It is such a beautiful place

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Dean Millson
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Below the bassline...

Kevin Rudd has pretty much ruled out any compensation, hence all the talk about the rights and wrongs of it at the moment.

Previous governments have provided large amounts of financial support to aboriginal communities, however i don't think you'll find anyone disagreeing with the fact that such support has been ill targeted and mis-managed, and really hasn't achieved that much.


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Dr P
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Bayside

But if you are of aboriginal decent you have more opportunity to claim payments from the govt than any other Australian.

To the point in filling out the registration of my son I considered ticking the box that he was from Abo/Torres decent.

This can be done as the "officials" are not allowed to ask you to prove it!


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charlee
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Registered: Jun 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr P
But if you are of aboriginal decent you have more opportunity to claim payments from the govt than any other Australian.

To the point in filling out the registration of my son I considered ticking the box that he was from Abo/Torres decent.

This can be done as the "officials" are not allowed to ask you to prove it!


Gee I wish I was an aboriginal then! Their life sounds so easy!!

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