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Originally posted by DJ TranceFormer FUNNY MOFO!!! OK, let's start a lecture: 1. Do you see all of the pro DJs use CDs alot? NO!!! Everybody uses VINYL, you know the black(usually) round 12" thing with grooves on it? 2. If the vinyl production will stop, then how to fuck do you think you will be able to burn your cheap ass CDs? 3. Go to a record store and look at how much vinyl they got there and how many CDs, why tu fuck do you think they are called RECORD stores, not CD stores! 4. You are just one of those stupid kids who can't even tell the difference between CD sound quality and vinyl. Also all that scratching and everythign else WILL NEVER be the same as it will be on tables cuz it's reached DIGITALLY! Anyway, you are gonna get flamed for that comment of yours. Next time you better think before you write something.

dude, that was uncalled for.
I suggest you grow up before you start throwing "fucks" around like you did in your post.

Although I agree that, in general, the vinyl culture is more exciting (and suitable for Trance), there are very good reasons why someone would prefer CD's over vinyl, and did you even bother reading what that guy wrote?

For his purposes, CD's may be a better choice, that's what he has decided for himself, and we should respect that.

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Last edited by Eugene on May-07-2002 at 00:17

whoa chill transformer

most of us love vinyl, but sometimes there are tracks that you cant get on vinyl either. I tried getting Bullet in a Gun on vinyl, but its only on CD now.

naw, i'm not saying that CDs are bad, but it's just messed up when ppl start saying that vinyl will be sort of "out of style" sooner or later, ofcourse CDJs are fun, but for me it's only the fx part...
Yea, they are good for like tracks that are out of print, but not for everyday use, atleast not for me...

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I use both and then some.

I like vinyl for the feel and control over them. I own Pioneer CMX-3000's and not the CDJ-1000s so I get less control. Vinyl has a nice warmer sound because the frequencies go beyond 20-20kHz (audible level and the frequency at which most cd players broadcast at). That gives vinyl a "warmer" feel to the bass. New cd players like the cmx-3000 goes beyond that but a lot of cds and mp3s are kept at the 20-20khz range. Vinyls are a pisser to maintain. I can't tell you how many vinyls I have scratched. I usually buy 2 copies per vinyl.

I like cds because I can take a song, rework and remix it, add effects and samples, burn it back onto cd and spin it the same night. A lot of my new new music is on CDs. An cds are cheaper than buying vinyl. On a side note, when you spin professinally, you better own all your music b/c if you get auditted and is caught spinning cds from mp3s there will be a problem.

A few times I've even used my notebook to spin.


At the end, in a course of a 3 hour set, I would spin 70% vinyl and 30% cd. For me it's not about which is better. It's about using all my tools with my limited resources.

As for mp3s, mp3s is a legacy technology by many standards. There are much better compression formats out there like OGG that rely more on processing and offers small files and better quality files. As better formats come out that captures all the subtlties of analog music, vinyls will disappear.

Well I'm off to bed! I ramble too much.

spin on vinyl, effects & own made stuff on CD.

About the pitch...
Use master tempo
that way you can change the pitch without the change in the pace, sometimes it helps...

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Just use the jog wheel, move it forward a little bit...

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Originally posted by DJ TranceFormer FUNNY MOFO!!! OK, let's start a lecture: 1. Do you see all of the pro DJs use CDs alot? NO!!! Everybody uses VINYL, you know the black(usually) round 12" thing with grooves on it? 2. If the vinyl production will stop, then how to fuck do you think you will be able to burn your cheap ass CDs? 3. Go to a record store and look at how much vinyl they got there and how many CDs, why tu fuck do you think they are called RECORD stores, not CD stores! 4. You are just one of those stupid kids who can't even tell the difference between CD sound quality and vinyl. Also all that scratching and everythign else WILL NEVER be the same as it will be on tables cuz it's reached DIGITALLY! Anyway, you are gonna get flamed for that comment of yours. Next time you better think before you write something.

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Originally posted by Scottaculous On a side note, when you spin professinally, you better own all your music b/c if you get auditted and is caught spinning cds from mp3s there will be a problem.

If i dont spin professionally, but im supposed to spin for my grad, so its okay to have burned cds then??

hey russian transformer dude...a lot of pros do use cds...pvd, infected mushroom, among other who DO USE CDS...maybe they just dont do that in moscow...peace and love buddy...why are u getting so agitated

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I can't believe so many DJ's on this board are so old fashioned!

Scratching with CD's, have you even watched the demo on the pioneer web site? That seems like proper scratching to me and all on CD Decks! Pitch control, just make changes, I can guarantee that you never go through a set and not make corrections with your vinyl, all the best DJ's are there because they can detect slipping beats way before anyone else and make the required adjustment!

Yes burning MP3's onto a CD will lose sound quality, which is a big factor in the reason why I rarely use CD's, but with the arrival of the new Pioneer CD decks I feel more comfortable about using them, the control seems more natural.

But a DJ should be able to cater for an situation, what happens if one or both of your vinyl decks are damaged? End of set for the 100% vinyl guys. Not so for someone who can interchange vinyl with CD.

I'm fed up of the macho "I use vinyl therefore I am good" crap that DJ's use, it doesn't matter how you get the end product, what matters is that you get the end product. And before anone attempts to flame me I am primarily a vinyl based DJ, but one who is open to new advancements!