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Originally posted by Lucidity Ok, here are some examples for you to hear what I am talking about, hopefully the quality is good enough, I converted them to mp3. Example 1 - http://www.box.net/shared/1ujlb8bggg Example 2 - http://www.box.net/shared/fuqr164ws8 Example 3 - http://www.box.net/shared/x74okrkbos Example 4 - http://www.box.net/shared/mx0ird1c0g These are all from the same cd but, they are different kicks and to me they all have the sucking sound. Now yes I know what sidechaining is and I know the effect it has, but I am talking specifically what the kick sounds like. Even when it is just say the kick and the hi-hats, you can hear it sounds so powerful from it being sucked, compressed or something. Please help me get this sound, I beg.... Also alot of what Armin Van Buuren plays sounds like this, I want it!

These kicks are all very different. I think the sound you are going for is largely a result of the bassline. The kicks are all vastly different.

Another important thing to consider, besides just the ratio and threshold, is the attack time. A higher attack time means that the compression won't occur until just a bit later into the kick. Seeing as how a kick is a very quick frequency sweep, high to low, then the higher pitch at the beginning isn't as compressed and punches a bit more.

If you're sidechaining your bass with the kick as the SC signal, then play with the attack time settings on that. The initial high frequencies of the kick won't clash with the bass, but the later lower portion will. Playing with the SC attack time can result in a different kick feeling.

Layering a pre-verbed hi-hat or snare can give a lead in to the kick. So instead of [uhn , ts, uhn, ts] you can get [uhn, ts, sh-uhn, ts] for instance.

So, I typed all that out because I really don't know what you mean by 'sucking' sound. Hopefully something there will throw you in the right direction.

I understand what you're looking for... To get that powerful "sucking-sound" you're talking about is all about compression with a late attack-time.. and using the right samples, or preferably making them yourself from scratch, so that you get the them exactly how you want them.

Yeah, I just covered that.

If you want to make your own, I HIGHLY recommend Ism Bazzism. http://www.ismism.de/home_e.htm

thanks for the quick response, I guess it could be the kick and the bassline together that get that sound I want. I think kicks and bassline 's has always been my problem, I will make something now like 16 bars and will post it soon....

I can't believe someone else is awake when I am too

Here is one I made http://www.box.net/shared/95wodf5csw

I'm gonna start adding hats now.....

Post up a couple measures of that kick, and a couple measures of that bassline seperately.

with or without my processing?

this is with hats http://www.box.net/shared/9hs0gun4g0

without

Here they are..........

http://www.box.net/shared/p9v5zzuw40

http://www.box.net/shared/t026anpws0