Iio Rapture is as cheesy as it goes. Check out the -> I hate "Iio Rapture" I can't stand it, cheesy vocals!!!!! thread. There you will find the essence of cheese.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n I cant believe that so many people reckon that if a track becomes really popular, it becomes bad... wtf? Thats so stupid, basically then, If *put your fav track ever here* became uber-popular and got an MTV video and won an MTV award, you wouldnt like it any more? *sigh* What narrow-mindedness these late years of trance have spawned.

I agree totally. That is really stupid.

But anyways, to whoever who started the thread. This is the REAL definition of cheese: When a track becomes really popular and the mainstream likes it, then people who liked the track before starts dissing it and don't like it anymore and label it as cheese. Just because they want to feel like they know so much about trance and feel important etc...

hum.....why are people always confusing a cheesy track and an overplayed track all the time? get it right people!

cheese doesn't become cheese because it gets popular. popular means overplayed not cheesy. cheese means something that sounds tacky, usually associated with a tune that sounds WAY too happy but is not always the case.

example? i think cosmicman productions are cheesy. are his productions really that popular? no! does tiesto, oakenfold, armin and pvd play it? do big famous radio stations beat it to death? i have yet to witness either scenarios.

stop mixing it up. people hate tracks that get popular because its played out. simple. people hate cheese because it sounds super gay!

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Originally posted by d-jay MyTH okay cos ur from sweden i'll try to explain what cheese means to us uk ta s cheese=tacky, cheap sounding, makes you cringe, most people say the poppier side of trance = cheese. Examples: ian van dahl, alice deejay and atb. hope that helps

see. d-jay MyTH has got it spot on.

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I think cheesey beats are derived from a basic bass line, fast pace drums leading up to a symbol, and a keyboard (or twinkle,twinkle highs) and nothing else other than maybe some lyrics but thats it. In my mind a good track has to sound full! I don't know if you understand what Im saying but it should genrally sound busy other than for a good epic break down. There should be lots of music going on, on every level of sound from the highs which are the first thing you hear to the very distant background echo. Thats my opinion. I hope it helps.

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Originally posted by thomassster Us TA's tend to like underrated songs that don't explode out in the public. Good trance should be kept underground where people who actually enjoy the music will want to learn about it and its not gonna be publicized and downgraded just like how the britney spears and the eminems are.

i agree....u said that perfectley...

to me its when the mainstream people who could care-less about the music the artist or the culture of where that track came from start listening to it oevr and over and over again and beat it to death...then swear to god they know all about trance/tech/what-have-you and over night become ravers cus they ehard Sandstorm or Rapture on the radio...thats what pisses me off...

i say keep it underground ....

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Okey what i've learn through this thread and what i think and can figure out myself and what sounds least stupid is that cheesy is when a Song has a cheap kind of sound when all the sounds are kinda small and often to make it sound beter to some, they make thoose songs "happy".

If you don't think like me, don't bother to argue cause this is how i will see cheesy =)

Thank you all!

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