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Ya man I think I have been misunderstood. I actually dont pretend to think I am playing some new kind of style, sorry if it came across as that. All I'm try to say is I spin quality tracks and I'm an up and coming DJ, which is so damn true not that I spin a new style or whatever. So somehow it got misunderstood. But your right its like pulling teeth to get somewhere in this city. We really got no trance market and I have to spin mostly house (then progress to trance) just to get people in the club. Anyway you seem to know what your talking about and I respect your advice and points. Later-Out

Hi new guys.

What the people meant to say was that it is unconventional to advertise headliners in your thread title, and may be inappropriate. Check out the format of other threads, especially ones by established production companies throwing shows without headliners.

However, good job on using this unconventional tactic to grab our attention.

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Alrite sorry for coming across as rude, but I'm actually a really mellow person. So first, I won't comment on the thread title as others have already, you get the point. Second, I have been very into Trance for the past 6 years or so, and yes coming from Sask that meant being the only person I personally knew who liked any EDM at all for a long time.
I guess my point was that Deadmau5 and Armin Van Buuren are so big right now that anyone whose been into EDM for a week could start name dropping the big shots and claim they love Trance music, and that doesn't convince me you've done any actual research to play original or atleast non "trance top 40" music. If you want to be a trance top 40 DJ and copy Tiesto and Armin's playlists, that's fine, that's your choice, but that's not very enticing to me like I said, as in I don't want to be able to predict your tracklist before even seeing you. Just because I like trance doesn't mean that I'm going to like all the big name's music, a lot of who have been producing pretty shitty the last while.

Finally, I quite respect your effort and passion as a beginning DJ, and as one who wishes he had gotten into DJing long ago perhaps even a little jealousy. Yes, I would've clicked on the topic if you didn't put all those names in there. I read every topic to see what is going on. Remember I come from a place where the EDM scene is almost non-existent. I enjoy going out and supporting small events and meeting others who share the similar interest. Also I live in Whistler now. I'm gonna head into Van soon for perhaps the Pink party coming up.

Edit: After reading your original post all the way through this is what I meant about the predicing your tracklist bit:
"Also, be sure to get there early so you don't miss your favorite hits like Timberlake remixes, Destination Calabria, FLG and David Guetta hits!"
If your passionate about music then let people come to hear your music, rather than trying to pull then in with old overplayed tunes.

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well as long as we now all have the etiquette of how to properly post a thread lets get down to business. phantom of electro is going to be a very good show as i do know techja and robinski to be very good dj's. i do believe they are just as good as any dj out there and i cant wait for these 2 to put on many more shows to come. so if you have the balls and live in vancouver i dare you to show up to phantom of the electro and be blown away with what they have to offer.
till then

hmm...i have a lot to say about this thread. but i'll just comment on 1 thing, which i've read thus far, (which doesn't have anything to do w/ the thread itself, but rather is a side issue, which someone addressed, to make things simpler ):

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coming from Sask that meant being the only person I personally knew who liked any EDM at all for a long time.

coincidentally, yesterday, i was thinking back to the days when i didn't know a single soul, who was into e.d.m.. (all throughout high school & during the 1st few years of post-secondary, it was me, myself, i, & the music.)

& now, i'm having SO much fun w/ you guys, (& girl )! i've said it once, & i'll say it again: each & every one of you make these nights even better! i've only been going to these nights since late '06, but i've had more fun since that time than i've had in my whole entire life! (...& i give a big "LOL" @ all of the ravers, who think i'm a god-damn undercover! )

but okay... edit: as for this event, i DEPSISE dressing up. but i'm not gunna put that down. it's still a neat concept. however, unfortunately, i'm already going to something else, (cedric gervais,) which i planned for myself weeks ago. =/ have a blast for me, though!

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Originally posted by halfjap well as long as we now all have the etiquette of how to properly post a thread lets get down to business. phantom of electro is going to be a very good show as i do know techja and robinski to be very good dj's. i do believe they are just as good as any dj out there and i cant wait for these 2 to put on many more shows to come. so if you have the balls and live in vancouver i dare you to show up to phantom of the electro and be blown away with what they have to offer. till then

Sounds to me like you just made another account for a poor attempt to promote yourself even more... and "daring us to come" "if we have enough balls"... come on are we still in elementary school??

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Originally posted by daphunky1 Sounds to me like you just made another account for a poor attempt to promote yourself even more... and "daring us to come" "if we have enough balls"... come on are we still in elementary school??

Hey I know what your doing, posting comments/remarks that are impossible to resist and argue on...I'm much smarter than you think and I'm on to you. (DJ's are intellectual people - it takes a great intellectual mind to be a successful DJ, just look at Tiesto, reportedly quite a 'dork' but a 'dork' that properly channels his intellect which results in his wild success). Deep down you want to see what my creative response is, and in part it mildly entertains you to read it...so here you are...

Come on man...this HALFJAP guy, I do know as a friend (and no, not that imaginary friend), its not "me" the DJ signing in on another account, I'm really not that desperate. But, wow! You must think pretty low of me...I kinda wish I could change that, but in the end its not me that has to change. Anyway, he is a pround supporter of the show, and has his own style of communicating just like us all. Furthermore, if you look at the signature writing styles, it is all too clear they come from different minds. But besides that point, I must say it is very cool that you support EDM especially from/in sask where I understand that there is no market, and you probably have to travel to see the big name DJ's, which I commend you for, thats a true fan.

RESPONDING to the 'copying of popular DJ's tracklist'

Copying from a single source is called plagiarism, copying from multiple source is called research.

I understand that you think I am copying the big DJ's tracklist, but it's not completely true. The truth is I select some epics, some current "top 40 (if you will)" and many "underdog" productions. I most definately have my own style which is admittingly a mash of 10 different DJ's that have different tastes, some popular DJ's some not. Trance is not commonly spun here much so I highly doubt their will be complaints in the playing of epics and favs. To prove my unselfishness...I am not a house DJ by nature, but as this city seems to love its house genre I have diversified and collected feedback on what is the most thoroughly enjoyed tracks - so there will be a generous dose of house/electro house. I pride myself on being a DJ for the people, as they are my clients and I serve them. If they want to hear the house hits then so be it. Personally I like more of the NOT WELL KNOWN trance songs (which to me are my "top 40")but there is no market for that, and it can only be intuitively faded into a set instead of dominating the set.

QUOTED - "Edit: After reading your original post all the way through this is what I meant about the predicting your tracklist a bit:
"Also, be sure to get there early so you don't miss your favorite hits like Timberlake remixes, Destination Calabria, FLG and David Guetta hits!"
If your passionate about music then let people come to hear your music, rather than trying to pull them in with old overplayed tunes."

RESPONSE - can I be honest here? I agree with the fact they are overplayed, I sure think so, but my research has shown that it was highly requested those tunes be played. Do I like JT? No not really. The FLG classics? Yeah, I'm getting tired of them aswell, but I had to realize its not about what I want to hear its what the majority of my clients want, and they get want the want, because not everybody serves them them like they should be served. If I played only "my passionate selection of tracks" like you suggested (which I still do, in part)it would not be a show for the people but rather a selfish all-about-me-show, which is too arrogant and, well, self centered. Like I have said before I love trance, I am a trance DJ by passion, but the market condradicts my passion. So instead of quiting or completely selling out to house I have collaborated styles. I give them what they want and throw in my passion for trance/tech trance here and there, but I dont completley force it on them. I read their response through body language and I learn from that for upcoming events. What else can I do, honestly? Oh and BTW I know trance all to well, I'm a fricken trance DJ, feel free to test my knowledge anytime...I dare you! LOL < mocking halfjap, LOL

Well it looks like we agree to agree and agree to disagree on some points but it has been a good arguementative thread and I have learned some and will take much as advice. Thanks for all your opinions and even the ones that "don't really matter and we should ignore."

Another novel in the achive and way too much damn writing, but its been fun. - Out...finally!

Heya all! So I've been reading this thread the past couple days and I guess I should post seeing as I'm the other half of this party.

For me music is the first important thing here, so while I agree the thread title shouldn't have big names, we're really just trying to paint a clear picture. I spend most of my life around music and especially with EDM its very uplifting to people. It brings people together.

The second important thing is having a rowdy fuckin' show. I mean every show I'm going to there's some people going nuts and a whole lot of people just chillin. I'm trying to market EDM for what it is: Dance music. I just wanna make you dance.

So really this is about people getting together to have a good time listening to what I feel is the best music around. See ya Friday.
PM me for tix.

Oh yeah. I just posted a four track set we put out as a teaser so you can actually hear our mixing and a few tracks we're gonna be playing.
myspace.com/esrobinski

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Alrite, so that other poster wasn't you... fair enuf... regardless even if it was your friend it was an odd way, I thought for him to promote his friends.

Quoted:I pride myself on being a DJ for the people, as they are my clients and I serve them. If they want to hear the house hits then so be it. Personally I like more of the NOT WELL KNOWN trance songs (which to me are my "top 40")but there is no market for that, and it can only be intuitively faded into a set instead of dominating the set.

Good reply. DJs are for there for the people. Sometime it seems to me like DJs are only there for themselves and playing what they want. And even when it is completely obvious that they are losing the crowd they are still unwilling to compromise. Good DJs should play different types of sets depending on the crowd the are facing which you aluded to.

Quoted: Like I have said before I love trance, I am a trance DJ by passion, but the market condradicts my passion. So instead of quiting or completely selling out to house I have collaborated styles. I give them what they want and throw in my passion for trance/tech trance here and there, but I dont completley force it on them. I read their response through body language and I learn from that for upcoming events.

Again good reply. I guess the only thing I can say then is that you should try and attract the type of people who will enjoy the music you enjoy, then you can be less compromising with the popular house tunes you must play. If you advertise those types of tunes, that's the kind of people you will attract.

Anyways enuf this... good luck with your night dude.

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RESPONSE - can I be honest here? I agree with the fact they are overplayed, I sure think so, but my research has shown that it was highly requested those tunes be played. Do I like JT? No not really. The FLG classics? Yeah, I'm getting tired of them aswell, but I had to realize its not about what I want to hear its what the majority of my clients want, and they get want the want, because not everybody serves them them like they should be served.... I give them what they want and throw in my passion for trance/tech trance here and there, but I dont completley force it on them. I read their response through body language and I learn from that for upcoming events. What else can I do, honestly?

If this is the case, then why should I come to your event when I can hear the same thing anywhere else? What makes your night featuring Dance Music's Top 10 better than a typical Granville Strip Club that plays the exact same Dance Music's Top 10?

If you want to stand out from the crowd, be unique. Yeah, you'll take a bloody financial beating at first, but if you stick through with it, you'll make a far greater impression. As it stands, your event doesn't sound terribly interesting. Just Another Top 10 Dance Night.


As for your trance challenge, without looking, list five Oliver Lieb aliases off the top of your head (obviously, there's no way I can verify you didn't cheat, but there's it is ).

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this is getting funnier by the minute

5? I gotta say I couldn't. But maybe a few like lets see, The Ambush for sure with Everlast and Acapulco (my fav Oliver Lieb tracks), obviously LSG (like Netherworld) and he has some minmal/techy stuff under Solieb. But thats it, if you give me 5 minutes I could name all 5 but thats pretty tricky off the top of my head - not a big Oliver Lieb fan but I remember some stuff off of older compilations and what not.
Yeah nice one though, really caught me off guard with the classic trivia.