quote:

Originally posted by noikeee Daft Punk and Underworld.

perfect examples, imho.

___________________
201

quote:

Originally posted by RJT I hear Dubfire is pretty underground.

Really, anyone who's produced a Madonna track.

___________________
Everyone has an opinion. Mine just happens to be a little more informed than most.
Electronic Music Critic: Near-Daily Ruminations Of Music I Own, In Alphabetical Order!

Respected by who?

Because edm fans of mainstream generally don't knows fuck about whats good in underground, and fans of underground generally hates or don't cares about mainstream.

Obviously if you says, a bunch of underground and mainstream loves Daft Punk, but they're neither or totally, IMO.

There used to be loads, such as Leftfield, Orbital, The FSOL... all 90s acts and a lot of them split up now. Most of the names mentioned here, such as Underworld, Daft Punk and the Chems, are also 90s acts still going. Back in the 90s it was quite common for electronic acts to have underground acclaim and still sell records.

These days I think there's a real dichotomy between "mainstream" and "underground". The music deliberately segregates itself, which I think is a fucking terrible thing. You won't be able to name many new acts that cross-over like the ones above.

___________________
Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J These days I think there's a real dichotomy between "mainstream" and "underground". The music deliberately segregates itself, which I think is a fucking terrible thing. You won't be able to name many new acts that cross-over like the ones above.

This is a great point indeed, it's very strange because it wasn't until very recently that I kind of began hearing a lot of kids out at clubs refer to music they hear out in terms that were in binary opposition with one another, specifically "commercial" vs. whichever adjective you want to use for "non-commercial" (underground, alternative, etc.).

Unfortunately I think a lot of that has to do with the snobby techno/"commercial EDM" dichotomy (at least here in the States), because you really do have parties where there's great music but it is a bunch of people just hanging out, listening to what usually amounts to little more than nice background music (a set I think I have to include myself in), and for some reason this crowd generally feels as though they "won't" have any fun at the more "commercial" events.

Conversely you have the set that is relatively unabashed about their tastes and genuinely enjoy going out and reaching for the lasers week in and week out - many of whom seem to feel that the kind of music you can relax out at a club and listen to while simultaneously having a conversation with your friends is nothing more than snobby techno, so boring that how could anyone enjoy hearing it at a club?

So neither set winds up going out to the others club nights for nothing more than being stubborn and the dickhead battle continues in a fashion similar (but much "wussier" and lame than) the 90's East Coast/West Coast hip hop battle.

I hate it.

___________________
last minute disco dot net

Aphex Twin
Squarepusher
Boards of Canada
Autechre

I don't know how much "dance" applies to those guys, though.

KLF?

i have to agree about daft punk and underworld


underground however is very relative


it seems to me that you (OP) haven't seen how deep underground can actually go



there are a lot of people who can't give a shit about pryda

quote:

Originally posted by nefardec there are a lot of people who can't give a shit about *insert music here*

Fluke, Moby, The Prodigy, FSOL, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Amon Tobin, and probably a bunch of others I can't think of. I prefer to define them as "mainstream acts that don't suck".

___________________
When bread becomes toast, it can never go back to being bread again.

well anyone who is underground and stays true to their roots would fit the bill i would say
the main reason underground fans lose their interest once an artist goes big is they tend to 'sell out'

___________________
Desperately seeking unemployment