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Originally posted by teufel-man I think its retarded that people can basically get away with murder because the police happened to find the murder weapon through an unlawful search or something.... I see this as a step forward

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Originally posted by Invasionmix My suggestion is to make an amendment to the charter of rights to allow the search, cause if you got nothing to hide then you wouldn't mind a search, and it benefits the public as a whole. (A lil like U.S. Patriot Act, kinda)

SMH.

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Originally posted by Invasionmix Hmm I'm sure that wouldn't happen, but I kinda see what you mean... I guess what the police officer should've done was while he had the guy in custody was to obtain a search warrant

Exactly. If everything is done by the book, there's no need for lengthy court trials/decisions on whether this bit or that bit of evidence is admissible in court. The officer should have minded his business and impounded the car (or whatever is the procedure in such cases). If he had reasonable suspicion, he should have asked for a warrant. At that point it's up to the judge to decide. Next time I'm pulled over because my taillight is broke, and it turns out I forgot to renew my sticker, I don't want some OPP dude going through my trunk - it's none of his business.

As far as "that wouldn't happen" thing - why wouldn't it happen? If a policeman is given a right to enter the premises/search a car without a warrant, why _wouldn't_ they do so? The point is not to let them. Will Smith - Enemy of the State - "It's none of your fscking business!"

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I'm more upset that 35 kilos of coke is off the streets....no wonder its been so dry around here

but seriously, how any judge could throw out human rights because the ends justify the means is just retarded.....where does it end. Basically, as long as the police find illegal activiy then the means of finding it means nothing.

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If the guy should not have been stopped, there should be no case. Any idea what colour the guy was? This is the exact reason there have been investigations into police conduct. If the cop did not stop him based on a credible lead, or 'probable cause', what criteria did he use to stop the man?

i cant believe that people are actually supporting the court ruling. thats what really amazes me.

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While I don't agree with the illegal searches part... I don't think it's a bad thing to get a guy like that off the street.
and realistically, I can't see this becoming the norm after this one ruling. (which will probably be appealed and overturned anyways)

WE LIVE IN A POLICE STATE!!!!!!!



at least cops here dont pull you over once a week for a bribe!

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if you want to catch a bad guy, you do it by the book.

or else civil liberties have no meaning

how did you think dictators get away with abuse of power? they do it under 'for the common good'

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by chinamon i cant believe that people are actually supporting the court ruling. thats what really amazes me.

+1

Furthermore, many many actual laws trample on our charter of rights except that most dont get challenged in court.

One step closer to totalitarianism. And the worst part is that just like in other dictatorships, people here support it step by step (Until they realize whats really up and by then its usually too late)

How's this for idiot cop behaviour?


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Originally posted by chinamon i cant believe that people are actually supporting the court ruling. thats what really amazes me.

Court wants to sentence a man who was carrying 35 kilos of cocaine and he should be let free since they didnt have a proper search warrant?

No search warrant = pretend that the whole thing never happened? Doesnt make much sense to me.

I am not saying that the police should be allowed to search anyone who they are slightly suspicous about, but obviously they made a good decision by deciding to search this guy....

All I am saying is that if you are very sure that person X has something illegal like a large quantity of drugs, illegal weapons, or something else that is of danger to the public you shouldnt hold yourself back from searching them and getting that kind of stuff off the street just because of a legal technicality

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Originally posted by teufel-man Court wants to sentence a man who was carrying 35 kilos of cocaine and he should be let free since they didnt have a proper search warrant? No search warrant = pretend that the whole thing never happened? Doesnt make much sense to me. I am not saying that the police should be allowed to search anyone who they are slightly suspicous about, but obviously they made a good decision by deciding to search this guy.... All I am saying is that if you are very sure that person X has something illegal like a large quantity of drugs, illegal weapons, or something else that is of danger to the public you shouldnt hold yourself back from searching them and getting that kind of stuff off the street just because of a legal technicality

If the cops can't be bothered to follow the law, why should i?

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded