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jerZ07002
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Originally posted by Krypton
4. US self-suffiency in energy.

The US must separate itself fundamentally from violent regions of the world which have no problem declaring the only good American is a dead American. This is the fundamental strategic dilema the US faces. It is because of this, that we have Islamist terrorists and hatred of America.


this should be number one! Energy makes up nearly 1/5 of all imports and consists of about 2.5 of GDP. while it would eliminate the current account deficit, energy self sufficiency would be a significant step in the right direction.

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jerZ07002
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Fixed for a more legitimate question...


that's a BS response. Africa didn't create many of the problems they currently face. Once again, European imperialism created arbitrary boundaries that meant nothing to the tribal people. Imperial boundaries are part of the cause of many conflicts in the world.

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that's a BS response. Africa didn't create many of the problems they currently face. Once again, European imperialism created arbitrary boundaries that meant nothing to the tribal people. Imperial boundaries are part of the cause of many conflicts in the world.


Really?
I find Canada quite cozy thanks.
Maybe you'd care to think about that answer again?


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jerZ07002
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Really?
I find Canada quite cozy thanks.
Maybe you'd care to think about that answer again?


canada is inhabited by the people who created those boundaries - europeans, while africa is not. Major difference!

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canada is inhabited by the people who created those boundaries - europeans, while africa is not. Major difference!

Don't waste your breath, some people are incapable of comprehending the obvious. It's amazing the amount of denial that stems from guilt by association... and that association in terms of identity is equally strange, but, then again, it's explain the inflated superficial sense of pride.


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i am a fan of the cheetah, antelope, jaguar, and zebra. are we doing enough for the cheetah, antelope, jaguar, and zebra?

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i am a fan of the cheetah, antelope, jaguar, and zebra. are we doing enough for the cheetah, antelope, jaguar, and zebra?


the jaguar is native to central and south america

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the jaguar is native to central and south america


i'm pretty sure you could find one in africa

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Fixed for a more legitimate question...



Haha, this is the most typical uneducated response. Africa has no prior history of centralized governance, and any traditional forms of governance were largely eradicated by colonial policy. There was no institutionalization of the state at all at independence, and the colonial powers largely squashed capacity to build such institutionalization as part of their attempt to minimize opposition to colonial rule. In fact, at independence in the Belgian Congo, out of 20 million people there were less than ten with a university degree. Who exactly was supposed to build a fully-functioning Congolese state? Who was supposed to champion democratic or economic development?

It is true that many African problems are inherent in the structure of their very own states, but to somehow insinuate that it is entirely their fault is... well... stupid and irresponsible.

When African states have the tools to govern effectively, as only a few do, and the economic capacity to do development of infrastructure and sustainability, then your criticism could be justified. But the fact of the matter is that they don't. Yet.


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jerZ07002
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i'm pretty sure you could find one in africa


nope....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar

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Haha, this is the most typical uneducated response. Africa has no prior history of centralized governance, and any traditional forms of governance were largely eradicated by colonial policy. There was no institutionalization of the state at all at independence, and the colonial powers largely squashed capacity to build such institutionalization as part of their attempt to minimize opposition to colonial rule. In fact, at independence in the Belgian Congo, out of 20 million people there were less than ten with a university degree. Who exactly was supposed to build a fully-functioning Congolese state? Who was supposed to champion democratic or economic development?

It is true that many African problems are inherent in the structure of their very own states, but to somehow insinuate that it is entirely their fault is... well... stupid and irresponsible.

When African states have the tools to govern effectively, as only a few do, and the economic capacity to do development of infrastructure and sustainability, then your criticism could be justified. But the fact of the matter is that they don't. Yet.


nice way of saying it's all europe's fault. a position that i clearly agree with.

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nope....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar


wikipedia is not a reliable source

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