This is where differing opinions are going to rage WIDELY. Some would say that once a week is OK, while other would say once a month, or once every two months.. or an Annual Party...

Myself, I guess I'd set a "cutoff" at once a year. I guess that would be "responsible". Take it as you will.

Thing is. The scene is dominated by early to late 20 somethings and there's a reason for that...

Just read the first post and see if you fall into that category. It's as simple as that. I understand that some people might get their back up against the wall and become defensive or lash out at me and my point of view. Maybe it's because they read the questions and can say "yes" to some of them.... and it's a moment of realization... denial....

or maybe they just think I'm FLAT OUT WRONG.

Either way, at least they are thinking and I'm OK with being wrong.

This debate is needed for SOME of you, not all of you.

Cheers.

Last edited by nomore on Mar-17-2008 at 20:44

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I dunno why I did that one above... but anyhow.

Your point is well taken. But then people just need to think for themselves.

There always are people that are careful not to let partying to get in the way, and there's always a few that fail at recognizing when to stop...

What can you do, that's life. I do think that friends of "irresponsible" users should help out and try to pull their friends away from the scene if it's affecting the life of someone that much.. That's what friends are for.

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Originally posted by Superstring Maxx-No More

LOL!!! Thanks for that! Hilarious.

A also agree with your above post. I just think that there might be some cases where your friends might be in the same boat as you and you might need to read a post like this one to "make you think". That's all.

a little bit of awareness never hurt to post - good stuff

i think if you're gonna get trounced on, it's for the most part people trying to justify their own behaviour (or just the regular anticipated and predictable internet bullies that troll and thrive here). i don't think this was meant to be an attack though, so i wouldn't take those too personally. and for the trouncers - if you can keep the balance, why the need to justify it on here? the actions speak for themselves. like the poster said, if they can reach out to one person who is floundering right now - this post served its purpose. lol, so much hate!

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Originally posted by Irishaddict a little bit of awareness never hurt to post - good stuff i think if you're gonna get trounced on, it's for the most part people trying to justify their own behaviour (or just the regular anticipated and predictable internet bullies that troll and thrive here). i don't think this was meant to be an attack though, so i wouldn't take those too personally. and for the trouncers - if you can keep the balance, why the need to justify it on here? the actions speak for themselves. like the poster said, if they can reach out to one person who is floundering right now - this post served its purpose. lol, so much hate!

Hate makes you lol?

Anyways... The reason he's catching flak for the post isn't because of his view, but because he failed to acknowledge the opposing side as being in any way legitimate. He's demonizing those that don't agree with his outlook by saying they have to

"grow up as a person (I don't mean that in an insulting way AT ALL), and accept your life beyond "the scene". [how is that not insulting?]

That's why everyone feels the need to justify... because the post is obviosly a veiled attack. Seriously...I party so I need to grow up? Is this just illicit drugs or are we counting booze too?

Anyways... not trying to troll, just wanted to point out why the post is getting the reactions that it is.

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Originally posted by nomore Thing is. The scene is dominated by early to late 20 somethings and there's a reason for that...

When was the last time you went out? Last time I looked around Guv or Zone everyone was at least 10 years older than me. I get shit all the time for going out and being so young.

Some of the best people I've met in this scene are near or in their 30s.. and they're far from out of control drug users with life issues.

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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty Hate makes you lol? Anyways... The reason he's catching flak for the post isn't because of his view, but because he failed to acknowledge the opposing side as being in any way legitimate. He's demonizing those that don't agree with his outlook by saying they have to "grow up as a person (I don't mean that in an insulting way AT ALL), and accept your life beyond "the scene". [how is that not insulting?] That's why everyone feels the need to justify... because the post is obviosly a veiled attack. Seriously...I party so I need to grow up? Is this just illicit drugs or are we counting booze too? Anyways... not trying to troll, just wanted to point out why the post is getting the reactions that it is.

on here the hate makes me lol, cuz it's more often than not totally unneccessary.

see maybe i just didn't read it that way. he clearly said if his post reaches one person who is caught up in parties the wrong way that it has served its purpose. i don't even agree with all his criteria. i just think the overall message is more important. like i said - if you've found the balance, why the need to justify it here?

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I've learned that with "opinions", you are almost always going to offend SOMEONE, no matter if you intended it or not.

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Originally posted by Irishaddict if you've found the balance, why the need to justify it here?

Because it wasn't phrased that way by the OP. That's all. If you post a one sided opinion, then you have to expect the opponents to voice thier side. Thats just how forums work.

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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty Because it wasn't phrased that way by the OP. That's all. If you post a one sided opinion, then you have to expect the opponents to voice thier side. Thats just how forums work.

ok gotcha. u win.

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