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burns
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: uK

Leading on from this topic - My mixer has 2 channels - Mid - Gain - High - bass eqs. My bass is a quarter and the others are three quarters, Thats how i like them set. When i take the bass to 0 there is no differance, But my mate has a mixer and when he does that, the bass is completely taken out, to very excellent effect ! Im baffled, Its not as if my mixer is shite coz it isnt, Its pretty good to be honest. HELP ME.

Old Post May-12-2002 08:11  United Nations
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Xquisite
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Santa Barbara, CA, USA

well when I mix hip hop.. it's easier to slap the xfader left/right to kill a channel then it is to turn the nobs or use the upfaders.

when i spin trance, i hardly ever touch the xfader unless i feel like slapping it over to the other channel fast.

So to sum it up, u use the Xfader cuz it's naturally easier/faster to slap it from left/right than it is to use the Upfaders (especially if you're using a trance mixer). Not only that it's easier to scratch with. I cant ever imagine doing simple transforms with the upfaders. The only time i use the upfaders is if i'm trying to drum scratch.

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When i take the bass to 0 there is no differance, But my mate has a mixer and when he does that, the bass is completely taken out, to very excellent effect ! Im baffled, Its not as if my mixer is shite coz it isnt, Its pretty good to be honest. HELP ME.


what's the range on your lows? Mine is +6% or something and I have the RANE TTM56. They're noticeable but not as noticeable as my old Vestax PCV275 which I think has 12%.


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Acid Circus
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

quote:
Originally posted by burns
Leading on from this topic - My mixer has 2 channels - Mid - Gain - High - bass eqs. My bass is a quarter and the others are three quarters, Thats how i like them set. When i take the bass to 0 there is no differance, But my mate has a mixer and when he does that, the bass is completely taken out, to very excellent effect ! Im baffled, Its not as if my mixer is shite coz it isnt, Its pretty good to be honest. HELP ME.


His mixer has EQ kills, simple as that. Some mixers don't have them, but most new ones will as it is a pretty important feature these days!

Old Post May-12-2002 14:40  Scotland
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DJ A.i
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Jersey City, NJ

yea.. i agreee with everyone that using your volume/channels is a lot better for fade in and out for beatmixing... i only know of HIP HOP DJ's that use heavy scratching that uses the crossfader.... i spin mostly trance and some hip-hop but i dont know how to scratch LOL so i dont really use it to much.

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VisionsofPVD
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: New York City

I personally dont recommend using any gain knobs for mixing electronic music, bc, as someonw said before, they simply dont kill the sound to completion. Thats what the volume slides are for...also, being an ex-hip-hop dj a long time ago, the x-fader is indeed essential..but for electronic music, unnecessary unless you wanna switch from one channel to another very quick (which happens very rarely)


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Dmatrox
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Calgary

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I personally dont recommend using any gain knobs for mixing electronic music, bc, as someonw said before, they simply dont kill the sound to completion.


I dont understand what you mean by "sound to completion", can ye clarify?

I use the gain knobs a lot because i need to hear what im cueing. If one track is too loud or too soft, then i use the gain to lower or increase the sound level. Keeping the sound level constant during cueing usually helps keep the sound level constant through the mix for me. I dunno, may be its different for other people's mixers.

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he's talking about people who turn the gain all the way down and gradually turn the gain up to mix, and when you do that, the music isn't necessarly cut when you turn the gain all the way down...


my problem with people who gain mix is that how do you listen to the cued track in the headphones if you turn the gain all the way down?!

you can get the same smooth feeling with linear sliders if you have a gentle touch and don't let your hand float (i.e. put the heel of your palm somewhere on the mixer so you're just moving your fingers, not your whole arm)...and just know your redzones on your mixer

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djxtension
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Oldenzaal, Netherlands

I don't have a crossfader, and I can't really say that I miss it.

Crossfaders are (as said before) only usefull for scratching or swapping channels real soon (which can sound quite good sometimes... .
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So if you're spinning trance, house, or whatever, I don't think crossfaders are usefull.

Old Post May-13-2002 09:43  Netherlands
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mr_sick
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Braine, Belgium

The X-fader is also used by some techno djs, and it sounds really good when they can use it.

Listen to a Dave Clarke set, he uses this trick a lot


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crossfaders aren't limited to those who spin hip-hop, jungle, etc.

its limited to those who have creativity and just don't mix 2 tracks together

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Jocker
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

heh... good

i was starting to think that i miss out some big secret of djing or something


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Special_K
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver

Ive been spinning for almost 3 years now and I never use the channel levels. I mix using the cross fader, its pretty much the same depending on how you use it. I rarley see DJs using the levels at partys.

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