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Originally posted by Fir3start3r They are trying to combine two different events into one suggestion that emails are missing because of scrubbed hard drives which isn't the case. See below.

Umm, no, they are not. As the article stated:

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In proposing an e-mail recovery plan Tuesday, Facciola expressed concern that a large volume of electronic messages may be missing from White House computer servers, as two private groups that are suing the White House allege. Facciola proposed the drastic approach of going to individual workstations of White House computer users after the White House disclosed in January that it recycled its computer backup tapes before October 2003.

Now here's the problem - the White House should have archived their emails on the servers. They claim absolute ignorance or stupidity and didn't archive anything under the time in question, SO the judge is wanting to see if there's anything on the workstations in some way, shape, or form.

That's not combining anything, and I'm wondering if you're trying to be almost ignorant in understanding that. They can't get it one way on a given email server, nor can they can they get them from backups, so the judge is looking at the data on the individuals hard drives instead.

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Scrubbing hard drives is done all the time - there's no mystery about this. I would hope they would after a corporate refresh since it is standard security protocol (in any business, government or otherwise).

I understand this, as a former tech support worker myself we did this all the time, especially before we tossed them or recycled them.

But that would be up to the judge to examine them to find out, since it's unlikely ALL of them were scrubbed.

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While they may be missing a permanent archiving email system (as stupid as that is) on their servers, corporate email systems are not delivered to a workstation and leave the server - they remain on the server. Believe me, I go through this everyday at work...

The data itself is still transferred in file to the workstation. It goes to a temporary file onto the workstation, which can still be retrieved provided that no new data has overwritten it.

So it's not permanently stored onto the workstation, per se, like it is on the email server, but there can still be evidence of its existence on the workstation, and with some good retrievers who know their shit that data can be restored if it's not overwritten.

And this is all provided that they had email servers in the first place like we're both referring to here. Considering they seemingly can't find their homework at all, I tend to wonder exactly what kind of system they truly had.

Or they're just plain fucking lying through their teeth about their servers and backup data, or had completely scrubbed those servers and backup data by now anyway.

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