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humilis
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Helsinki

quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
And if those sites hired talented GUI(interface) programmers and artists they would be able to grow their marketshare and bring competition to Beatport. The best part about Beatport is the interface, its what brings in the traffic which in turn brings in the artists and music which in turn brings in more traffic.


I agree that Beatport is easiest to use, but it's also slowest and buggiest interface because of 100% Flash.

Old Post Mar-23-2008 09:21  Finland
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Jono404
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The beatport interface is horrible, much prefer TID and audiojelly where browsing doesn't take forever

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DaveT
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: San Francisco

First, I agree Beatport needs to redo it's site and make it easy HTML. It can be a pain in the ass to navigate through...and if you make a mistake...I always forget you can't just hit refresh or use the regular back-forward button!

Anyhow, I am glad there is a quota system, and it's not harsh. All a LABEL (whole label, not a single track) has to make is $300 in gross sales in a quarter. If a label's tracks are all $1.99, then it just needs to sell 151 tracks from its entire library on Beatport ..if it doesn't do it, they are put on probation and must hit $600 gross.

Beyond that, and I know it'd be hard to setup and be fair overall, but I think it would be nice if there was a committee that could choose special exceptions whether for a single track or for a label...cause a startup label out there might have some quality stuff no one knows about and never finsd on Beatport...would be nice if these small labels got a little promotion to give them a boost and once they hit a sales quota, if at all, their promotion is removed. Something to help the smaller guys out.

But in the end there are wayyyyyyyyyy too many labels these days. Seems like everyone and their mother runs their own label these das and if you try to navigate heavil into Beatport, it's just frustrating at all the weak stuff on there. Again, not the fastest site to navigate through!

Beatport also needs to do better qualit control on duplicate tracks...I'll see the same track on there like ten times...released on different dates, across several labels (prob different countries). They should just make it that if a track is signed to a specific label in the countr you have in our profile, it onl shows that one...although sometimes the track will be cheaper from one label than another.

Anyhow, I do mainl use Beatport...and it's mainl because I just know about it more. But when a track is not on there or I can't buy it because I'm in the US, I'll use other sites like audiojelly and others.

End of speech.


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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia

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THE_Chris
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Ireland

Although I ranted about Beatports price increases a few months back I still use them. They still have a good catalogue and sell .wavs.

Trackitdown is about €0.20 cheaper for most older tracks so I'd get it there if possible, but Beatport seems to have more stuff, even though TID has the odd rarity that Beatport doesnt.

Beatports flash doesnt bother me, I just pay with Paypal to keep my CC info off their flash site. Beatport dont charge extra for using Paypal, Trackitdown do if under £10 for the order. I quite like the flash actually as you find a surprising large number of good (prog) tunes by going to new releases and just listening to every sample on the list. Because of Beatports layout you can listen to an awful lot more samples in the same period than you can on other download sites.

So in summary, good still, if a little expensive. But still cheaper buying two or three tracks than ordering the CD/vinyl release through the post and having it take days to get here.


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Jono404
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I got some tracks from Positiva's digital download site the other day and was quite impressed by the pricing, a quid a track for 320. They didn't have much of their back catalog on there though so I picked up:

Ayla - Ayla (Taucher mix)
PVD - We Are Alive (Club Mix)
Trisco - Muzak (Steve Lawler Mix)

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_Ocean_Drive_
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Given the current exchange rate, and my ip location, Beatport is dirt cheap right now!


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DarkMemoria
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Calgary

Gonna let you guys in on a little secret that will save you alot of $$$!

Beatport offers tracks for $1.49 / $1.99 / $2.49 + $1.00 for .wav handling...

but www.dancerecords.com offers .wav (even for new releases) for $1.39! The only thing is that their selection / interface could use a bit of work - but if you're willing to dig, they have alot of great stuff for cheap ($0.89 for 320kbps mp3).

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skip
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: home or somewhere else

quote:
Originally posted by DarkMemoria
Gonna let you guys in on a little secret that will save you alot of $$$!

Beatport offers tracks for $1.49 / $1.99 / $2.49 + $1.00 for .wav handling...

but www.dancerecords.com offers .wav (even for new releases) for $1.39! The only thing is that their selection / interface could use a bit of work - but if you're willing to dig, they have alot of great stuff for cheap ($0.89 for 320kbps mp3).



too bad the selection sucks


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winston
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Registered: Nov 2005
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Re: Beatport Greed Stinks

quote:
Originally posted by wb26




roaster!

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Jono404
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quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
you dont want to pay £1.49 for a track on beatport so you go on trackitdown.net and pay £1.49 for a track??? hmmm...


The price thing was more related to audiojelly which is usually cheaper. I'd still rather pay 1.49 to TID rather than Beatport because of the better interface though.

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whiskers
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Registered: Sep 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Jono404
I generally use Trackitdown and audiojelly if i can, beatport prices take the piss now especially on back catalog stuff, do I really want to pay 1.49 for a track that was relased in 1998? Do I bollocks.



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Artist Deadmau5

$2.93US

Because I couldn't find Xpander, Heaven Scent, or Out of the Blue, so I just went for Deadmau5 (how's that for 1998?)

$3?? Trackitdown seems to be expensive.


Although heaven scent is $1.45 on Audiojelly. And I'm glad both sites got the "player within the window" concept.


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