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Dj Nacht
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quote:
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It's basicly any sound produced by an accoustic instrument that isn't a straight up note; so the sound of guitar picks, accidental detuning, sliding down a string, etc. All of this stuff usually occurs during playing and is considered a part of the 'guitar' sound but is also very difficult to reproduce electronically.


Well a physical modelling synth can try and immitate that stuff but ive never actually heard any before. With Tassman Player Its possible to get very close from what ive read but I didnt hear it.

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3F05Q
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I can't help but recommend that you buy a guitar. A few hundred can get you something that will work out JUST fine. Probably much cheaper if you get something used. I've found that a guitar is great for me in creating new melodies as well. My muscle memory is completely different on a piano than it is on a guitar. As a result I get vastly different melodies and structures.

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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
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I can't help but recommend that you buy a guitar. A few hundred can get you something that will work out JUST fine. Probably much cheaper if you get something used. I've found that a guitar is great for me in creating new melodies as well. My muscle memory is completely different on a piano than it is on a guitar. As a result I get vastly different melodies and structures.


Yes, fully agreed. There is no way you can play guitar type chords and melodies on a piano, or piano type melodies on a guitar. But it might cost more than $200 if you don't already have a mic.


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Lana
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What about the REFX Slayer2?
http://www.refx.com/?lang=en&page=p...slayer2/summary

At least the demo mp3 sounds pretty cool to me...
But then again, I don't know much about guitars

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kitphillips
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quote:
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What about the REFX Slayer2?
http://www.refx.com/?lang=en&page=p...slayer2/summary

At least the demo mp3 sounds pretty cool to me...
But then again, I don't know much about guitars

Clearly


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Lana
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Clearly


Ok... So what is wrong with the Slayer2?

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david.michael
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Ok... So what is wrong with the Slayer2?



It's good, but still doesn't sound quite like a real guitar... especially the powerchords, etc. It has a pretty distinct "video-game guitar" sound.

That isn't to say it doesn't sound good or isn't useful. You can make some pretty cool tracks with it. But could you tell a difference between that and one that someone played on a real guitar? Oh yeah.

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Project-K
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Originally posted by Dj Nacht
Well a physical modelling synth can try and immitate that stuff but ive never actually heard any before. With Tassman Player Its possible to get very close from what ive read but I didnt hear it.


I'm sure it's theoretically possible, but practically impossible.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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You could probably imitate a specific guitar recording pretty well with enough time and attention to detail, but as far as actually generating a new one, it's almost certainly far easier to use a real guitar-player.

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System101
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Thank you all for replying. You all make good points. There is no doubt that nothing can beat the sound of a real guitar. I know learning a new instrument like a guitar is a great advantage in the long run but I don’t have 3-4 months to spare so I’m looking at alternative options.
As far as imitating a human playing the guitar I think I could come close to it.
I have found some useful sound packs as well: http://www.vir2.com/vir2/products/a...dshd/index.html

So as far as synths goes nothing comes close to a real guitar?
Ex. Native instruments, contact etc,.

p.s. another example of a song: Coca & Villa - La Noche
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg9ub-p4pCc

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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
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Synth guitar which is really obvious is ok, theres nothing that says it has to be realistic. Thats why Slayer is sometimes OK, for that "video game" sound.
Slayer sounds nothing like a guitar, it sounds cool but not like a guitar.


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Elec
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Try AAS String Studio, it has a lot of options.

Also, I think you meant Sunlounger - White Sand

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